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[2020-03-15 19:57:48 CET] <heinz> Hello Dave
[2020-03-15 19:57:58 CET] <rune> Hello Heinz
[2020-03-15 19:58:06 CET] <rune> How are you, still healthy?
[2020-03-15 19:58:17 CET] <heinz> yes, I am.
[2020-03-15 19:58:22 CET] <heinz> And you?
[2020-03-15 19:59:10 CET] <rune> Good, its like the apocalypse here. 630000 population in Gloucestershire with 5 case, but no doctors appointments, empty shelves, loooooong queues
[2020-03-15 19:59:32 CET] <heinz> It is not as bad here.
[2020-03-15 19:59:41 CET] <rune> Im getting over my cold, think I'll cough a bit tomorrow at work and see if I get another weeke off ;)
[2020-03-15 20:00:15 CET] <heinz> They closed aall schools and Kindergartens here.
[2020-03-15 20:00:23 CET] <rune> People in UK stockpile food at christmas as the shops are shut for 2 days
[2020-03-15 20:00:32 CET] <heinz> My son and his wife will do home office.
[2020-03-15 20:00:43 CET] <rune> In Ireland its worse. They have shut the pubs and restruants for two weeks
[2020-03-15 20:01:03 CET] <rune> Yes, if we are sensible it will blow over
[2020-03-15 20:01:04 CET] <heinz> Same here, resdtaaurants, cinams, ... are closed.
[2020-03-15 20:01:11 CET] <heinz> cinemas
[2020-03-15 20:01:29 CET] <rune> Crazy!
[2020-03-15 20:01:55 CET] <heinz> But tzhe number of infected people is still increaSING EXPOENTIALLY:
[2020-03-15 20:02:00 CET] <rune> If they restrict travel, I will not need to go to work. No cars, no parking
[2020-03-15 20:02:40 CET] <rune> Mrs Merkel says 80% will be infected...
[2020-03-15 20:03:10 CET] <heinz> The increase rate in China and South Korea is almost zero (China) or at least decreasing(South Korea)
[2020-03-15 20:03:36 CET] <heinz> How did they get this?
[2020-03-15 20:03:38 CET] <rune> Yes, they probably started last november
[2020-03-15 20:04:08 CET] <rune> What? The virus or decrease in numbers?
[2020-03-15 20:04:15 CET] <heinz> Did you hear about the factory curvac?
[2020-03-15 20:04:31 CET] <rune> No, never heard of curvac
[2020-03-15 20:04:41 CET] <heinz> The increase rate is decreasing
[2020-03-15 20:05:15 CET] <rune> Or chinese are no longer reporting figures?
[2020-03-15 20:05:20 CET] <heinz> means : Not more exponentially, but going to a constant number of infected people.
[2020-03-15 20:05:56 CET] <rune> Scottish government said people should no longer present for testing
[2020-03-15 20:06:11 CET] <heinz> The name is curevac, comiing from cure and vaccine
[2020-03-15 20:06:25 CET] <rune> Just self-isolate for 2 weeks, only contact doctor if symptoms get worse
[2020-03-15 20:06:41 CET] <heinz> They expect to have a vaccine upto summer.
[2020-03-15 20:07:18 CET] <rune> Good, I think its over 70s who also have additional health problems who are most at risk
[2020-03-15 20:07:33 CET] <rune> Although a baby was bord here with the virus
[2020-03-15 20:07:39 CET] <rune> born
[2020-03-15 20:08:39 CET] <heinz> What do the British news say about curevac? 
[2020-03-15 20:09:38 CET] <heinz> Germany will close the borders to France, Switzerland , Austria and Denmark.
[2020-03-15 20:09:52 CET] <heinz> tomorrow morning from 8am on.
[2020-03-15 20:10:01 CET] <rune> I see Mr Trump is trying to buy exclusive access to vaccine and lure employees to USA
[2020-03-15 20:10:09 CET] <heinz> Right.
[2020-03-15 20:10:20 CET] <rune> Is that all the borders? Poland?
[2020-03-15 20:10:35 CET] <heinz> Poland has already closed to Germany.
[2020-03-15 20:10:48 CET] <heinz> Even Czech republic.
[2020-03-15 20:10:50 CET] <rune> OK, so all borders closed then.
[2020-03-15 20:10:59 CET] <heinz> No, Belgium and NL remain.
[2020-03-15 20:11:07 CET] <rune> 7 flights to Spain turned around and returned to UK yesterday
[2020-03-15 20:11:14 CET] <heinz> Luxmbourg too.
[2020-03-15 20:11:31 CET] <rune> Why are those still open?
[2020-03-15 20:11:41 CET] <heinz> No idea.
[2020-03-15 20:12:03 CET] <heinz> And no comments from Brussel.
[2020-03-15 20:12:24 CET] <rune> I heard Italy stopped flights from China only at the start so travellers just flew to Sitzerland, France Austria and entered via train and bus
[2020-03-15 20:12:34 CET] <heinz> Lets talk about the joystick.
[2020-03-15 20:12:40 CET] <rune> OK, 
[2020-03-15 20:12:56 CET] <heinz> Did you understand my sketch?
[2020-03-15 20:13:10 CET] <rune> Yes, but you keep changing it. I cant keep up
[2020-03-15 20:14:16 CET] <rune> I have the pins the same as the first sketch, you can use 24 or 28 pin ZFS
[2020-03-15 20:14:32 CET] <rune> Just order for data and Address lines are different
[2020-03-15 20:14:55 CET] <heinz> Yes, I thougt it would be better to have the fire button close together. But you could also change it to the previous picture.
[2020-03-15 20:15:23 CET] <rune> I have, on the 24 pin ZFS
[2020-03-15 20:15:27 CET] <heinz> Let me have a look to your scheme.
[2020-03-15 20:15:35 CET] <heinz> Wait.
[2020-03-15 20:15:37 CET] <rune> pins 24 - 13 are D1-D4A15-A8
[2020-03-15 20:18:03 CET] <heinz> I haver your keycard.png here. And there are many differences o my sche3me.
[2020-03-15 20:18:38 CET] <rune> Ig nore that, its old news
[2020-03-15 20:18:41 CET] <heinz> The worsest thing is that you have used 13 of 14 pins on the right side. 
[2020-03-15 20:19:21 CET] <heinz> OK.  Could you send the new picture?
[2020-03-15 20:19:32 CET] <rune> Last one should be Shema.PDF at 11:29
[2020-03-15 20:19:37 CET] <heinz> 24-13 are ok.
[2020-03-15 20:20:11 CET] <rune> sent again
[2020-03-15 20:20:15 CET] <heinz> And left side starting with bottom left pin = D0 ?
[2020-03-15 20:20:33 CET] <rune> Yes
[2020-03-15 20:20:50 CET] <rune> On the 24 pin model
[2020-03-15 20:21:16 CET] <rune> On 26 pin 13/14 are fire 2 and pin 15/16 are no connection
[2020-03-15 20:22:18 CET] <heinz> I have seen it now. It would work. 
[2020-03-15 20:22:31 CET] <heinz> But it is a bit unusual.
[2020-03-15 20:22:48 CET] <rune> Thats how it was drawn on the first sketch
[2020-03-15 20:22:59 CET] <rune> as a 24 pin ZFS
[2020-03-15 20:23:18 CET] <heinz> Usually the two pairs of additionally pins are drawn on top. 
[2020-03-15 20:23:36 CET] <heinz> This is the case for instance if you look to a burner.
[2020-03-15 20:23:52 CET] <heinz> You have put them at bottom.
[2020-03-15 20:24:09 CET] <rune> I thought that the two (24/28) ZFS would have the tops at the same position. 
[2020-03-15 20:24:18 CET] <heinz> But if the tracks are best with this positioning, then leave it.
[2020-03-15 20:24:38 CET] <rune> I think if the wiring is OK we should leave it.
[2020-03-15 20:25:18 CET] <rune> How will you handle the socket if the keys are in on half row?
[2020-03-15 20:25:25 CET] <rune> Eg 6/7/8/9/0
[2020-03-15 20:25:46 CET] <rune> All 5 address lines will come from on pin
[2020-03-15 20:25:57 CET] <rune> one
[2020-03-15 20:26:32 CET] <rune> Maybe a daisychain like the Diodes on the ZX NU
[2020-03-15 20:26:34 CET] <heinz> 6 = D4 & A12,  7 = D3 & A12 and so on. 
[2020-03-15 20:27:12 CET] <heinz> I did try this with my breadboard.
[2020-03-15 20:27:16 CET] <rune> Yes, so A12 has to go to 5 pins on the left for the joystick
[2020-03-15 20:27:28 CET] <heinz> right.
[2020-03-15 20:27:41 CET] <heinz> One would need a solder joint.
[2020-03-15 20:28:05 CET] <heinz> FrROGGER is a game of this type.
[2020-03-15 20:28:36 CET] <rune> I couldnt get frogger to load. Maybe my USB. Just error 10 all the time
[2020-03-15 20:28:49 CET] <rune> It didnt even try to load
[2020-03-15 20:28:58 CET] <heinz> I had no problems loading from USB.
[2020-03-15 20:29:12 CET] <heinz> Even your VDR2.txt runs on my ACE.
[2020-03-15 20:29:17 CET] <rune> I'll need to retry on the new USB
[2020-03-15 20:29:20 CET] <heinz> N o problems at all.
[2020-03-15 20:29:29 CET] <rune> Yes, VDR2.txt runs on mine too now
[2020-03-15 20:29:39 CET] <rune> What format did you use for the USB?
[2020-03-15 20:29:56 CET] <heinz> Which issue of mem boards do you use?
[2020-03-15 20:30:18 CET] <rune> The first one
[2020-03-15 20:30:26 CET] <rune> with the broken tracks
[2020-03-15 20:30:26 CET] <heinz> 8GB.
[2020-03-15 20:30:35 CET] <heinz> I have the second.
[2020-03-15 20:30:42 CET] <rune> Oh, sorry. 4Gb
[2020-03-15 20:30:55 CET] <rune> Bad one was FAT32 / 4096 bytes per sector
[2020-03-15 20:31:14 CET] <rune> Good one was FAT / 512 bytes per sector
[2020-03-15 20:31:34 CET] <heinz> How to check it?
[2020-03-15 20:32:36 CET] <rune> Hold on, I may be telling fibs
[2020-03-15 20:32:44 CET] <heinz> Propwerties show"TFAT32"
[2020-03-15 20:32:51 CET] <heinz> FAT32
[2020-03-15 20:33:18 CET] <rune> Yes, same here. 
[2020-03-15 20:33:39 CET] <rune> So that doesnt explain my problems
[2020-03-15 20:33:41 CET] <heinz> OK, let us stop for today.
[2020-03-15 20:33:56 CET] <heinz> I will check your sscheme tomorrow.
[2020-03-15 20:34:06 CET] <rune> OK, talk to you next week maybe if Liz doesnt need attention
[2020-03-15 20:34:16 CET] <rune> bye
[2020-03-15 20:34:24 CET] <heinz> Regards to her!
[2020-03-15 20:34:32 CET] <rune> i'll tell her
[2020-03-15 20:34:35 CET] <heinz> I will not go to Mahlerts this year.
[2020-03-15 20:34:41 CET] <heinz> Bye.
[2020-03-15 20:34:45 CET] <rune> bye
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