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[2020-01-26 20:00:02 CET] <heinz> Hello Dave
[2020-01-26 20:00:32 CET] <rune> Hello Heinz, Im just copying some games to test
[2020-01-26 20:00:51 CET] <rune> How are you tonight?
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[2020-01-26 20:01:49 CET] <rune> Back?
[2020-01-26 20:01:53 CET] <heinz1> Does the programs run?
[2020-01-26 20:01:57 CET] <heinz1> Do
[2020-01-26 20:02:19 CET] <rune> I havent tested yet. My son called then my dad
[2020-01-26 20:02:45 CET] <rune> I know ALOAD works, and also Eriks SAVE program
[2020-01-26 20:02:58 CET] <rune> So it is probably my fat fingers
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[2020-01-26 20:03:31 CET] <heinz> I had to start again.
[2020-01-26 20:03:31 CET] <rune> Put a coin in the electricity meter.
[2020-01-26 20:04:30 CET] <heinz> ok, it runs.
[2020-01-26 20:04:36 CET] <rune> are you ready?
[2020-01-26 20:04:41 CET] <rune> OK. 
[2020-01-26 20:05:00 CET] <rune> How difficult is it to get the printer working?
[2020-01-26 20:05:05 CET] <heinz> Bad connection tonight.
[2020-01-26 20:05:21 CET] <rune> Storms over the brandenburg
[2020-01-26 20:05:33 CET] <heinz> The printer is very easy. Just plug together and use the program I have.
[2020-01-26 20:05:52 CET] <rune> Will I have the program at some time :)
[2020-01-26 20:06:02 CET] <heinz> I will send it.
[2020-01-26 20:06:08 CET] <rune> Thank you.
[2020-01-26 20:06:16 CET] <heinz> At the beginning I had problems with the printer. 
[2020-01-26 20:06:23 CET] <rune> Im working 3 days so no problems
[2020-01-26 20:06:31 CET] <rune> Was it configuration
[2020-01-26 20:06:34 CET] <heinz> Message was PAPER OUT,
[2020-01-26 20:06:45 CET] <heinz> but there was still paper in.
[2020-01-26 20:07:32 CET] <rune> Was it the micro switch
[2020-01-26 20:07:35 CET] <heinz> Then I've detected that the roll was to small in the diameter to move the sensor.
[2020-01-26 20:07:55 CET] <rune> Ah, customers buying there own (wrong) paper
[2020-01-26 20:08:03 CET] <heinz> I had to block the sensor with a stick.
[2020-01-26 20:08:24 CET] <rune> You could get a job with us :)
[2020-01-26 20:08:38 CET] <rune> You should see the bodges I get sent back to fix
[2020-01-26 20:08:41 CET] <heinz> No, will stay to be pensioneer.
[2020-01-26 20:08:53 CET] <rune> But, but, but
[2020-01-26 20:09:03 CET] <rune> I will agree with you
[2020-01-26 20:09:29 CET] <rune> Did you use the serial cable I sent o rget another one
[2020-01-26 20:09:48 CET] <heinz> I've used your cable.
[2020-01-26 20:09:59 CET] <rune> I'll get another at work tomorrow
[2020-01-26 20:10:06 CET] <heinz> But I didn't have a power supply with 24V.
[2020-01-26 20:10:14 CET] <heinz> My laptop has only 19V.
[2020-01-26 20:10:30 CET] <rune> Did you make one, or use a lower voltage
[2020-01-26 20:10:47 CET] <heinz> So I've ordered the original power supply for 14€ via Amazon.
[2020-01-26 20:11:24 CET] <rune> Did it have the correct plug?
[2020-01-26 20:12:12 CET] <heinz> It is a power supply designed for that printer, 
[2020-01-26 20:12:21 CET] <rune> Im looking for it now
[2020-01-26 20:12:21 CET] <heinz> so the right plug.
[2020-01-26 20:12:43 CET] <heinz> There seems to be a kind of scissors at the printer.
[2020-01-26 20:13:04 CET] <heinz> Don't know which byte will activate it.
[2020-01-26 20:13:08 CET] <rune> yes, to cut the paper
[2020-01-26 20:13:19 CET] <heinz> char 12?
[2020-01-26 20:13:43 CET] <heinz> I will try.
[2020-01-26 20:13:50 CET] <rune> I dont know, it just cut when I used it
[2020-01-26 20:14:08 CET] <heinz> I think one has to send a certain byte.
[2020-01-26 20:14:21 CET] <heinz> next page = char 12?
[2020-01-26 20:14:29 CET] <heinz> Will try.
[2020-01-26 20:15:09 CET] <rune> I just bought a PSU -£16.00
[2020-01-26 20:15:17 CET] <heinz> My program is quite slowly, since I have used a time loop.
[2020-01-26 20:15:55 CET] <rune> Have you tried the assembler for the ACE
[2020-01-26 20:16:12 CET] <heinz> My psu was 14.99€ and free delivery.
[2020-01-26 20:16:35 CET] <heinz> What assembler?
[2020-01-26 20:16:38 CET] <rune> I have Prime, so it will arrive tomorrow
[2020-01-26 20:16:43 CET] <heinz> Z80 assembler?
[2020-01-26 20:16:49 CET] <rune> The assembler on the ACE site
[2020-01-26 20:17:05 CET] <heinz> No, no reason to do that.
[2020-01-26 20:17:26 CET] <rune> or maybe in the TOSEC archive
[2020-01-26 20:17:35 CET] <heinz> Tomorrow I will get twio 2732 EPROMs from Ingo. 
[2020-01-26 20:17:55 CET] <heinz> Then I will try the mem card and the vdrive with the Russian board.
[2020-01-26 20:18:09 CET] <heinz> Checking, if there are also problems with the chars.
[2020-01-26 20:18:36 CET] <heinz> I have the feeling that the 6116 RAMs cause the problems.
[2020-01-26 20:18:40 CET] <rune> I hope it works, the fix was very easy - im happy to say
[2020-01-26 20:18:55 CET] <heinz> Which fix?
[2020-01-26 20:18:59 CET] <rune> My money is on the Z80
[2020-01-26 20:19:02 CET] <rune> memory card
[2020-01-26 20:19:20 CET] <heinz> But there are still problems, try sudoku.
[2020-01-26 20:19:22 CET] <rune> I removed the caps from my bad ACE and it got a little better
[2020-01-26 20:19:45 CET] <rune> I thought Tondose had that fixed. He showed a a smillty fave
[2020-01-26 20:20:05 CET] <rune> smiley face
[2020-01-26 20:20:35 CET] <rune> Also the problem is terrible all the way through to nearly good
[2020-01-26 20:20:39 CET] <heinz> No, not complete.
[2020-01-26 20:20:42 CET] <rune> Depends on Z80 I have in
[2020-01-26 20:20:57 CET] <heinz> After loading sudoku he spoke again about wrong chars.
[2020-01-26 20:21:01 CET] <rune> My V2 Ace is perfect so far
[2020-01-26 20:21:09 CET] <heinz> Try sudoku.
[2020-01-26 20:21:12 CET] <rune> I will
[2020-01-26 20:21:21 CET] <heinz> I will send you the printer program.
[2020-01-26 20:21:37 CET] <heinz> It needs some space in the RAM.
[2020-01-26 20:21:54 CET] <rune> Thanks, no rush. I am working and then plan to go up to scotland at end of the week
[2020-01-26 20:22:25 CET] <heinz> So first you have to put the RAMTOP to some value. Say 16199 15384 ! QUIT <CR>
[2020-01-26 20:22:32 CET] <rune> We (I) need to get the manual finished
[2020-01-26 20:23:10 CET] <heinz> Yes, it should be as short as possible. But Erik has written a manual, this should be enough.
[2020-01-26 20:23:15 CET] <rune> Then bload?
[2020-01-26 20:23:33 CET] <rune> OK
[2020-01-26 20:23:49 CET] <heinz> I will send the details for printing together with the program.
[2020-01-26 20:23:55 CET] <rune> Tell me, where are the characters ( ) on the german keyboard
[2020-01-26 20:24:21 CET] <heinz> Almost the same, just Y and Z are exchanged.
[2020-01-26 20:24:52 CET] <rune> I saw then on 8 & 9 same as Speccy on Tondose keys
[2020-01-26 20:25:18 CET] <rune> They are on 9 & 0 on UK keys
[2020-01-26 20:25:39 CET] <heinz> Always 9 & 0.
[2020-01-26 20:26:06 CET] <rune> I wonder where he got his keys from, or did he make stickers?
[2020-01-26 20:26:41 CET] <rune> I've made a set of keytops for my ACE same as the zeddie ones
[2020-01-26 20:27:37 CET] <heinz> Tondose: I had a look to his picture.
[2020-01-26 20:28:11 CET] <heinz> The 8 is top the "I", the 9 is top the "O", and the zero is not visible.
[2020-01-26 20:28:54 CET] <heinz> Did yoou learn some FORTH?
[2020-01-26 20:29:15 CET] <rune> Yes, ." doesnt work in direct mode
[2020-01-26 20:29:16 CET] <heinz> Do you know, how to PEEK and POKE?
[2020-01-26 20:29:24 CET] <rune> !@
[2020-01-26 20:29:36 CET] <heinz> Yes, and C! C@
[2020-01-26 20:29:59 CET] <heinz> This is importasnt for setting RAMTOP.
[2020-01-26 20:30:13 CET] <heinz> You can also poke in the video RAM.
[2020-01-26 20:30:22 CET] <heinz> Try 65 8192 C!
[2020-01-26 20:30:32 CET] <heinz> Should give an "A".
[2020-01-26 20:31:03 CET] <rune> I have been trying some small programs.
[2020-01-26 20:31:06 CET] <heinz> Did you read the ACE manual?
[2020-01-26 20:31:32 CET] <heinz> At least partially?
[2020-01-26 20:31:33 CET] <rune> I have the printed ACE manual. Been dipping in to see sys variables, word defs etc
[2020-01-26 20:31:56 CET] <rune> There are a number of differences from H4th
[2020-01-26 20:32:41 CET] <rune> I dont think string handling is as good as H4th
[2020-01-26 20:32:53 CET] <heinz> Yes, h4th is different, with some advantages and some drwbacks.
[2020-01-26 20:33:07 CET] <rune> Now I can save to vdrive, I will do a lot more
[2020-01-26 20:33:12 CET] <heinz> strings are really good on h4th.
[2020-01-26 20:33:18 CET] <heinz> badly on ace.
[2020-01-26 20:33:19 CET] <rune> Yes.
[2020-01-26 20:33:35 CET] <heinz> lets stop for today. try sudoku.
[2020-01-26 20:33:47 CET] <rune> How do you find your cherry switches? I have a "bad" one on the O key
[2020-01-26 20:34:03 CET] <rune> 50% registers
[2020-01-26 20:34:41 CET] <heinz> I will send the printing program. It does the following: The printer will give an echo .
[2020-01-26 20:35:07 CET] <heinz> cherry keys are very good.
[2020-01-26 20:35:09 CET] <rune> You mentioned that you can send directly to printer too?
[2020-01-26 20:35:22 CET] <heinz> I could, but why?
[2020-01-26 20:35:22 CET] <rune> I'll buy another 10 and replace the O
[2020-01-26 20:35:38 CET] <rune> Just thought you said it could
[2020-01-26 20:35:50 CET] <rune> what colour cherry did you get?
[2020-01-26 20:35:53 CET] <heinz> The printer is just for fun.
[2020-01-26 20:36:05 CET] <heinz> You can change the program as you want.
[2020-01-26 20:36:15 CET] <rune> OK.
[2020-01-26 20:36:24 CET] <heinz> And you could plug the small monitor at the serial card.
[2020-01-26 20:36:31 CET] <heinz> Instead of the printer.
[2020-01-26 20:36:51 CET] <heinz> Lets us stop now.
[2020-01-26 20:36:52 CET] <rune> Can the small monitor be a composite input?
[2020-01-26 20:36:55 CET] <rune> OK
[2020-01-26 20:37:04 CET] <heinz> No, just serial.
[2020-01-26 20:37:09 CET] <rune> I'll go try these programs
[2020-01-26 20:37:23 CET] <rune> I dont have a serial monitpr
[2020-01-26 20:37:27 CET] <heinz> And you have to plug on a real monitor.
[2020-01-26 20:37:34 CET] <heinz> second one.
[2020-01-26 20:37:37 CET] <heinz> Bye.
[2020-01-26 20:37:42 CET] <rune> Yes, thats what I meant
[2020-01-26 20:37:44 CET] <rune> Bye
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[2020-01-26 20:37:52 CET] <heinz> Have a nice week.
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