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[2019-08-30 14:34:01 CEST] ich kann es nicht erklaeren, aber es scheint so zu sein [2019-08-30 14:34:52 CEST] trotzdem ist es faszinierend, das der zeddy internet spricht. egal worueber :-) [2019-08-30 14:35:35 CEST] paule, meint das geht, weil der zeddy so schweigsam ist bei der [2019-08-30 14:35:47 CEST] internetkommunikation [2019-08-30 14:39:03 CEST] hallo jens, ich logge mich aus, weil ich eine zeddy-mail schreiben [2019-08-30 14:39:10 CEST] ok [2019-08-30 14:39:11 CEST] will. [2019-08-30 14:39:20 CEST] bis gleich. [2019-08-30 14:39:30 CEST] * klaus quit (EOT) [2019-08-30 15:15:35 CEST] * zx-user joined [2019-08-30 15:15:47 CEST] hallo jens [2019-08-30 15:16:10 CEST] kannst du das lesen??? [2019-08-30 15:16:10 CEST] [2019-08-30 15:16:29 CEST] * zx-user quit (bye) [2019-08-30 15:17:30 CEST] * olli joined [2019-08-30 15:17:48 CEST] huhu [2019-08-30 15:18:39 CEST] huhu [2019-08-30 15:18:51 CEST] kommt der klaus dazu? [2019-08-30 15:19:01 CEST] ja er ist dabei [2019-08-30 15:19:13 CEST] klaus ist noch am fluchen [2019-08-30 15:19:13 CEST] [2019-08-30 15:19:16 CEST] dann haben wir ja noch zeit zum quatschen [2019-08-30 15:19:45 CEST] ja, dauert noch ein paar minuten [2019-08-30 15:20:04 CEST] er muss ja alles von hand eingeben. nix dhcp [2019-08-30 15:20:29 CEST] er ist schon meim join [2019-08-30 15:20:29 CEST] * klaus joined [2019-08-30 15:20:42 CEST] huhu klaus [2019-08-30 15:21:01 CEST] hallo olli, bist du mit dem raspi-zeddy unterwegs? [2019-08-30 15:21:03 CEST] hallo klaus. das ging ja schneller als erwartet [2019-08-30 15:21:23 CEST] ich arbeite an meiner geschwwindigket. [2019-08-30 15:21:26 CEST] genau zxpi****** [2019-08-30 15:21:36 CEST] juhuh [2019-08-30 15:22:10 CEST] es klappt. muessen wird0 uns jetzt die ganze zeit per chat unterhalten? [2019-08-30 15:22:24 CEST] :-) [2019-08-30 15:22:29 CEST] dazu muesste paul auch dazukommen [2019-08-30 15:22:35 CEST] nee wir muessen uns gar nicht untrhalten [2019-08-30 15:22:56 CEST] paul ist beschaeftigt und fuehrt biologen hinters licht. [2019-08-30 15:23:25 CEST] aber schon dass wieder ein paar zeddies laufen :-) [2019-08-30 15:23:31 CEST] der zeddy spricht ncht und wwir auch nicht [2019-08-30 15:24:02 CEST] prima. dass du nicht das olliskop herausholen musst. [2019-08-30 15:24:45 CEST] das olliskop konnen wir fuer den fotoblitzer herausholen [2019-08-30 15:25:19 CEST] dann muss ich den versuchsaufbau machen. [2019-08-30 15:25:53 CEST] klaus faehrt doch so langsam, der wird nicht geblitzt :-) [2019-08-30 15:28:02 CEST] ich schau mal ob meine aenderungen jetzt nicht andere ircs kaputt gemacht haben [2019-08-30 15:28:07 CEST] * olli quit (bye) [2019-08-30 15:33:20 CEST] AFK [2019-08-30 15:34:35 CEST] * olli joined [2019-08-30 15:34:48 CEST] hello again [2019-08-30 15:38:29 CEST] sonja ist da [2019-08-30 16:56:01 CEST] * klaus quit (ping timeout) [2019-08-30 17:31:05 CEST] [2019-08-30 20:27:52 CEST] [2019-08-30 20:28:30 CEST] hallo? 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[2019-09-01 19:59:40 CEST] hello [2019-09-01 20:00:03 CEST] i got the pcb/uart etc. thanks [2019-09-01 20:00:17 CEST] the ic sockets are soldered on [2019-09-01 20:00:47 CEST] tracker says the keyboard should be with you tomorrow [2019-09-01 20:01:04 CEST] * pizx joined [2019-09-01 20:01:23 CEST] got another name? [2019-09-01 20:01:43 CEST] hello dave, here i am twice again. [2019-09-01 20:01:57 CEST] pc and zx81 wlan. [2019-09-01 20:02:05 CEST] lol, multi personalities. [2019-09-01 20:02:17 CEST] you will need ecorcised. [2019-09-01 20:02:24 CEST] exorcised [2019-09-01 20:02:38 CEST] holmatic wrote another software, now it is possible to use zxq.de [2019-09-01 20:03:05 CEST] everybody has several personalities ;-) [2019-09-01 20:03:07 CEST] These never stop [2019-09-01 20:03:36 CEST] Do you want to use the uart mainly for printing? [2019-09-01 20:03:57 CEST] Not really, printing and wifi would be nice [2019-09-01 20:04:08 CEST] Neither more than the other I think [2019-09-01 20:04:22 CEST] but for the printing you will need some driver, right? [2019-09-01 20:04:57 CEST] Yes, there must be something available as RS232 printers were know in ZX81 days [2019-09-01 20:05:13 CEST] o.k. [2019-09-01 20:05:26 CEST] there is a small test program for the board. [2019-09-01 20:05:33 CEST] I also have the USB version [2019-09-01 20:05:47 CEST] I don't know wether I have sent it before. [2019-09-01 20:06:03 CEST] OH, tell me is there any difference between ceramic capacitors [2019-09-01 20:06:13 CEST] and the ones on the board. [2019-09-01 20:06:21 CEST] ceramic? [2019-09-01 20:06:26 CEST] Tatalum [2019-09-01 20:06:32 CEST] do you mean tantalium? [2019-09-01 20:06:38 CEST] Yes, the brown disc shaped ones [2019-09-01 20:06:57 CEST] Yep, you sent tantalium caps [2019-09-01 20:07:00 CEST] i see, the brown discs [2019-09-01 20:07:26 CEST] I built a multiface, tantalium were recommended but I used caramic [2019-09-01 20:07:28 CEST] the brown diks have only capacities upto 47nF. [2019-09-01 20:07:55 CEST] you could use them, if they have the right value. [2019-09-01 20:07:59 CEST] When I press the interupt button, it resets the Speccy [2019-09-01 20:08:15 CEST] OK, then I guess I have a bad 74 series IC [2019-09-01 20:08:36 CEST] Or you have the wrong cap values. [2019-09-01 20:08:51 CEST] Im sure they are OK, but will check [2019-09-01 20:08:52 CEST] tantalium is used from 1µF on. [2019-09-01 20:09:09 CEST] there are no ceramic for such high cacacity. [2019-09-01 20:09:14 CEST] capacity [2019-09-01 20:09:21 CEST] Now Im paranoid [2019-09-01 20:09:33 CEST] Wait til I check build notes [2019-09-01 20:09:52 CEST] tantaliums replace electrolytic caps. [2019-09-01 20:10:04 CEST] are they polarised? [2019-09-01 20:10:04 CEST] but they are smaller and more expensive. [2019-09-01 20:10:18 CEST] yes, polarized. [2019-09-01 20:10:29 CEST] could you send the scheme? [2019-09-01 20:10:47 CEST] Yes, it says 100n [2019-09-01 20:11:26 CEST] tantaliums have also a plus at one leg. [2019-09-01 20:11:38 CEST] 100n is ceramic. [2019-09-01 20:11:52 CEST] Its been sent. I'll send the build notes [2019-09-01 20:11:52 CEST] no polarity and very cheap, some cents. [2019-09-01 20:11:56 CEST] only. [2019-09-01 20:12:33 CEST] R1,R2 1K [2019-09-01 20:12:33 CEST] C1-12 100nf Tantalum [2019-09-01 20:12:33 CEST] S1 Tact Switch [2019-09-01 20:12:33 CEST] IC1 74S260N [2019-09-01 20:12:33 CEST] IC2 74LS30 [2019-09-01 20:12:34 CEST] IC3 74LS27 [2019-09-01 20:12:36 CEST] IC4/7 74LS74 [2019-09-01 20:12:38 CEST] IC5/10 74LS00 [2019-09-01 20:12:40 CEST] IC8 74LS125 [2019-09-01 20:12:42 CEST] U1 27C64 EPROM [2019-09-01 20:12:44 CEST] U2 6264 SRAM [2019-09-01 20:12:46 CEST] P1 Spectrum Edge Connector 28x2 (Key on pos. 5) [2019-09-01 20:12:48 CEST] D1 1N4001 (Optional if through connecter fitted) [2019-09-01 20:13:04 CEST] Has the guy got the type wrong? [2019-09-01 20:13:07 CEST] c1-c12: 100nF? [2019-09-01 20:13:13 CEST] Yes. [2019-09-01 20:13:39 CEST] no tantalium,. But the very old brown disks I would use. [2019-09-01 20:13:52 CEST] I did use them. [2019-09-01 20:13:58 CEST] brown ones [2019-09-01 20:14:01 CEST] there are very small coloured ceramic caps. [2019-09-01 20:15:03 CEST] I had sent you a picture of my board, you will see small blue or yellow pearls. [2019-09-01 20:15:07 CEST] I think the problem may be the logic ICs because it does the same whether the eprom is in or not [2019-09-01 20:15:37 CEST] I expect it also, since the caps are usually not very important. [2019-09-01 20:15:57 CEST] Still waiting for mail. Must m= [2019-09-01 20:16:07 CEST] ?? [2019-09-01 20:16:10 CEST] be a long way [2019-09-01 20:16:29 CEST] We got a new settee and the mouse keeps sliding off the arm [2019-09-01 20:16:30 CEST] what kind of mail? [2019-09-01 20:16:39 CEST] your mail with the picture [2019-09-01 20:16:53 CEST] e-mail? [2019-09-01 20:17:13 CEST] or are you taling about a day or so ago? I thought you meant just now [2019-09-01 20:17:31 CEST] hello, i am the pizero. [2019-09-01 20:17:33 CEST] rewind and reset [2019-09-01 20:17:51 CEST] No, somedays ago. [2019-09-01 20:17:54 CEST] I got an Amstrad eMailer phone last week [2019-09-01 20:18:01 CEST] the picture of the uart boaard. [2019-09-01 20:18:06 CEST] Thought it looked interesting [2019-09-01 20:18:14 CEST] with the added LED. [2019-09-01 20:18:18 CEST] as it had a Spectrum built in [2019-09-01 20:18:39 CEST] Yes, I saw that photo. LED instead of a diode [2019-09-01 20:18:51 CEST] did you see the caps? [2019-09-01 20:18:55 CEST] Yes [2019-09-01 20:19:14 CEST] no bold brown diks. [2019-09-01 20:19:18 CEST] discs. [2019-09-01 20:19:31 CEST] But those are polarised? [2019-09-01 20:19:50 CEST] only the 5 tantaliums. [2019-09-01 20:19:57 CEST] yep. [2019-09-01 20:20:19 CEST] I mean the very tiny caps close to the sockets. [2019-09-01 20:20:50 CEST] Yesterday I was on the Spectrum meeting in Wittenberg city.x [2019-09-01 20:20:53 CEST] yes, see them [2019-09-01 20:21:17 CEST] these are 100nF, ceramic. [2019-09-01 20:22:01 CEST] I wonder why he said tantalum? [2019-09-01 20:22:32 CEST] I don't know. [2019-09-01 20:22:47 CEST] On my board the caps are blue. [2019-09-01 20:22:59 CEST] OK, for the next stage. Can I solder on the resistors, caps, diodes [2019-09-01 20:24:01 CEST] Or is there any modifications to those [2019-09-01 20:24:33 CEST] No, only the reset is changed. [2019-09-01 20:24:42 CEST] Looking at the Regulator. Is the input voltage on the left? [2019-09-01 20:24:50 CEST] No connection to the edge connector. [2019-09-01 20:25:03 CEST] And is the board voltage 5v? [2019-09-01 20:25:11 CEST] Yes, the voltage regulator: [2019-09-01 20:25:29 CEST] It is needed for powering the PiZero. [2019-09-01 20:25:34 CEST] I have a box of the box type [2019-09-01 20:25:57 CEST] If you will not use the PiZero, you won't need it. [2019-09-01 20:26:11 CEST] if input is on left it will hit the 74hct174 IC [2019-09-01 20:26:14 CEST] box type? [2019-09-01 20:26:40 CEST] Yes, little 1cmx1cmx.5cm [2019-09-01 20:26:47 CEST] Traco [2019-09-01 20:27:28 CEST] There should be enough space for a traco, or not? [2019-09-01 20:27:48 CEST] It depends on what side is input [2019-09-01 20:28:04 CEST] If to the left, no. The IC interferes with it [2019-09-01 20:28:24 CEST] I think I can bend the legs at 90 degrees and make it fit [2019-09-01 20:28:59 CEST] Take some wires for prolongation. [2019-09-01 20:29:30 CEST] The PiZero needs upto 250 mA. This is to much for the regulator in the ZX81. [2019-09-01 20:29:35 CEST] I can do that. I also think there is one or two like the one you used [2019-09-01 20:29:52 CEST] That's why holmatic has used the additional regulator. [2019-09-01 20:30:14 CEST] And only the PiZero is powered by this regulator. [2019-09-01 20:30:45 CEST] If you just want to use the board for UART, no reg is needed. [2019-09-01 20:30:51 CEST] I have the pizero, got the hdmi cable yesterday [2019-09-01 20:31:07 CEST] Well, I will need both for printer and wifi [2019-09-01 20:31:54 CEST] could you send me the zx81 driver for printing via rs232? [2019-09-01 20:32:19 CEST] I will need to find it. I never bother taking a copy until now. [2019-09-01 20:32:26 CEST] But, yes I will send it [2019-09-01 20:32:32 CEST] Thank you. [2019-09-01 20:32:38 CEST] I will try it! [2019-09-01 20:32:41 CEST] not a problem. [2019-09-01 20:32:48 CEST] Have you got a printer [2019-09-01 20:33:15 CEST] Usually, I connect the TTL-serial connector with a usb-board and connect it to the PC. [2019-09-01 20:34:03 CEST] I use Hyperterminal (windows) on the PC. [2019-09-01 20:34:04 CEST] OK, its just the idea of having a self contained ZX81 setup that appealed to me [2019-09-01 20:34:22 CEST] I know that one. We use it to probram router. [2019-09-01 20:34:37 CEST] And Putty to capture logs from the machines [2019-09-01 20:34:44 CEST] program [2019-09-01 20:35:13 CEST] That key you sent was funny [2019-09-01 20:35:28 CEST] nobody is talking to me. i am sad. [2019-09-01 20:35:31 CEST] It also doent take the cherry keycaps [2019-09-01 20:35:44 CEST] Speak to Guest244 [2019-09-01 20:35:51 CEST] He is a funny guy [2019-09-01 20:35:57 CEST] yes. this is pitty. [2019-09-01 20:36:13 CEST] But the cherry switches feel nicer [2019-09-01 20:36:34 CEST] I am happy to get the key board next week. [2019-09-01 20:36:50 CEST] You also get a space bar. That was the *BIG* thing in the 80s [2019-09-01 20:36:51 CEST] No real news in Wittenberg. [2019-09-01 20:37:05 CEST] Bokje? [2019-09-01 20:37:18 CEST] No, he wasn't there. [2019-09-01 20:37:21 CEST] Or is it the post depot [2019-09-01 20:37:29 CEST] Much too far. [2019-09-01 20:37:36 CEST] But roko was there. [2019-09-01 20:37:40 CEST] I checked today and they said it would bve delivered tomorrow [2019-09-01 20:37:55 CEST] Even not much closer. [2019-09-01 20:38:10 CEST] Have I gone at a tangent? [2019-09-01 20:38:17 CEST] We have been about 16 participants. [2019-09-01 20:38:20 CEST] Whats in Witten burg [2019-09-01 20:38:44 CEST] I told you, there was a Spectrum meeting. [2019-09-01 20:39:05 CEST] I dont remember. [2019-09-01 20:39:25 CEST] Im getting old and forgetful [2019-09-01 20:39:26 CEST] It was the 21st Spectrumania there. [2019-09-01 20:39:51 CEST] It would be nice to attend one of those one day [2019-09-01 20:39:59 CEST] Wittenberg is the city whre Martin Luther was a preach and professor. [2019-09-01 20:40:09 CEST] You did tell me that [2019-09-01 20:40:41 CEST] If you really want to come to such a meeting, then Mahlerts would be the best choice.t [2019-09-01 20:40:52 CEST] About 50 people. [2019-09-01 20:41:00 CEST] Yes, and a flea market [2019-09-01 20:41:16 CEST] it would be good [2019-09-01 20:41:20 CEST] Maybe one day [2019-09-01 20:41:31 CEST] But not so easy to get there, since the travel connections are not good [2019-09-01 20:41:40 CEST] I should retire in two months [2019-09-01 20:41:54 CEST] maybe work 2 days a week [2019-09-01 20:42:00 CEST] Best way to ask somebody in a big city that he could pick up you there. [2019-09-01 20:42:12 CEST] Or hire a car at the airport [2019-09-01 20:42:20 CEST] After retireing?# [2019-09-01 20:42:45 CEST] Yes, its in the bucket list [2019-09-01 20:43:04 CEST] No car, there are friends living close to big cities with airport, e.g. in Frankfurt. [2019-09-01 20:43:37 CEST] What would be the best airport? Frankfurt? [2019-09-01 20:44:00 CEST] Most connections are at Frankfurt. [2019-09-01 20:44:11 CEST] I think, msch is living there. [2019-09-01 20:44:21 CEST] msch from the forum. [2019-09-01 20:44:43 CEST] To drive from my home is 615 miles = 10 hours [2019-09-01 20:44:56 CEST] To scotland is 450 so not much further [2019-09-01 20:44:59 CEST] Andy came twice to Mahlerts.some [2019-09-01 20:45:24 CEST] Also its possible yto have a rest on the ferry or train at the channel [2019-09-01 20:45:54 CEST] Also a good idea, take Liz with yoou and spend some days of holiday in Germany. [2019-09-01 20:46:19 CEST] o.k. [2019-09-01 20:46:25 CEST] enough for today. [2019-09-01 20:46:34 CEST] talkiong next week again? [2019-09-01 20:46:37 CEST] yes, good idea. [2019-09-01 20:46:41 CEST] bye [2019-09-01 20:46:44 CEST] I have a beer shouting [2019-09-01 20:46:44 CEST] * pizx quit (bye) [2019-09-01 20:46:45 CEST] Bye [2019-09-01 20:46:56 CEST] bye both [2019-09-01 20:47:00 CEST] the other guy left alreadyy. [2019-09-01 20:47:05 CEST] Bye. 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