[2019-08-25 19:57:27 CEST] * rune joined
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[2019-08-25 19:58:38 CEST] <Guest399> Hello Dave
[2019-08-25 19:58:41 CEST] <rune> hello Heinz
[2019-08-25 19:59:00 CEST] <rune> Great weather? Nice and sunny/warm here
[2019-08-25 19:59:00 CEST] <Guest399> How are you?
[2019-08-25 19:59:19 CEST] <rune> Good. Got all the decorating done. Just finished putting away tools
[2019-08-25 19:59:24 CEST] <Guest399> Yes, very nice, 30 dergrees Ceksius
[2019-08-25 19:59:28 CEST] <Guest399> Celsius
[2019-08-25 19:59:49 CEST] <Guest399> What did you decorate?
[2019-08-25 19:59:52 CEST] <rune> I think we are a bit hotter - Best august bank holiday ever
[2019-08-25 20:00:17 CEST] <rune> Living room. Had to give colourd wall 4 coats of white paindf
[2019-08-25 20:00:24 CEST] <rune> And papered wall behind TV
[2019-08-25 20:00:32 CEST] <rune> Paint
[2019-08-25 20:00:55 CEST] <rune> The preparation was by far the longest part
[2019-08-25 20:01:20 CEST] <Guest399> This takes always the most time.
[2019-08-25 20:01:51 CEST] <Guest399> Remove all furnuiture,  prepare the walss,...
[2019-08-25 20:01:53 CEST] <rune> All done now. Goit village fayre tomorrow, then a few beers looking at the trees
[2019-08-25 20:02:14 CEST] <rune> Yes, and masking tape on the carpet
[2019-08-25 20:03:06 CEST] <rune> Any new zeddy/speccy stuff
[2019-08-25 20:03:15 CEST] <Guest399> I got old now and afraid to climb the ladder.
[2019-08-25 20:03:35 CEST] <rune> Im tall enough to reach the ceiling with the paint brush
[2019-08-25 20:03:59 CEST] <Guest399> But paper the wall?
[2019-08-25 20:04:21 CEST] <rune> Yes, I can reach the top with the paper
[2019-08-25 20:04:37 CEST] <Guest399> Our rooms are 3meters hogh.
[2019-08-25 20:04:43 CEST] <Guest399> high
[2019-08-25 20:04:49 CEST] <rune> I ate all my vegetables as a kid.
[2019-08-25 20:04:52 CEST] <rune> 2.4 m
[2019-08-25 20:05:10 CEST] <Guest399> Back to the zeddy.
[2019-08-25 20:05:18 CEST] <rune> the wall, but coving drops top for paper by 15cm?
[2019-08-25 20:05:21 CEST] <rune> Yes
[2019-08-25 20:05:30 CEST] <Guest399> I igot the special parts for Oliver's board.
[2019-08-25 20:05:42 CEST] <rune> Great, how much do I owe
[2019-08-25 20:06:03 CEST] <Guest399> I did not order the normal sockets (14 and 16 pins), I think you will have enough.
[2019-08-25 20:06:11 CEST] <Guest399> Also no resistors.
[2019-08-25 20:06:28 CEST] <rune> Yes, I should have, and resistors, and caps, and diodes
[2019-08-25 20:06:43 CEST] <Guest399> Even no PiZero WLAN for you.
[2019-08-25 20:07:07 CEST] <rune> Do I need to get my own pizero? Not a problem
[2019-08-25 20:07:47 CEST] <Guest399> Yes, might be it is even cheaper than here.
[2019-08-25 20:08:05 CEST] <rune> I havent checked but will
[2019-08-25 20:08:12 CEST] <Guest399> Be carefully, there are pizero wit/without WLAN.
[2019-08-25 20:08:27 CEST] <Guest399> with
[2019-08-25 20:08:45 CEST] <rune> 9.30  here
[2019-08-25 20:09:09 CEST] <rune> Is power micro USB plug
[2019-08-25 20:09:24 CEST] <Guest399> I will send all next week. I have made some changes, mighjt be you will do the same. I send you the details also next week. And pictures.
[2019-08-25 20:09:56 CEST] <rune> OK, I am not in a rush. Got loads to do around garden
[2019-08-25 20:10:12 CEST] <Guest399> The micro USB is only used at the very beginning to establish the pitero
[2019-08-25 20:10:20 CEST] <Guest399> pizero
[2019-08-25 20:10:46 CEST] <rune> I have a few. For a couple of Pi 1's and a Pi 2
[2019-08-25 20:11:18 CEST] <rune> I need to get then running with some sort of OS
[2019-08-25 20:11:23 CEST] <Guest399> And the second µUSB (ppower) should never be used. The power comes from the board.
[2019-08-25 20:11:55 CEST] <rune> OK, I'll wait and follow your notes/instructions
[2019-08-25 20:12:35 CEST] <Guest399> Oliver has also prepared everything to use a camera. 
[2019-08-25 20:12:41 CEST] <rune> I have the schamtic finished for the Jupiter Ace
[2019-08-25 20:12:48 CEST] <rune> schematic
[2019-08-25 20:13:06 CEST] <rune> The Pi camera?
[2019-08-25 20:13:09 CEST] <Guest399> Do you use just normal TTL?#
[2019-08-25 20:13:23 CEST] <Guest399> Pi camera.
[2019-08-25 20:13:40 CEST] <rune> Yes, only difference is 8K roms and ram instead of 2x 4Ks
[2019-08-25 20:13:57 CEST] <rune> Laying out the tracks is difficult though.
[2019-08-25 20:14:06 CEST] <Guest399> Do you attain to produce a pcb?
[2019-08-25 20:14:18 CEST] <rune> I will if I can get the tracks done
[2019-08-25 20:14:31 CEST] <Guest399> For selling? I would be interesed. 
[2019-08-25 20:14:36 CEST] <Guest399> interested.
[2019-08-25 20:14:43 CEST] <rune> PCB will probably be about 10.00 max each
[2019-08-25 20:15:03 CEST] <rune> And you dont buy. I will give you one as a gift
[2019-08-25 20:15:19 CEST] <rune> But I need the tracks done first
[2019-08-25 20:15:24 CEST] <Guest399> O.K. I will be happy.
[2019-08-25 20:15:57 CEST] <Guest399> Do you have edge connectors for Zeddy?
[2019-08-25 20:16:07 CEST] <rune> So will I. I think I need a photo of the board and put this on behind components
[2019-08-25 20:16:16 CEST] <Guest399> I mean, for Oli's pcb?
[2019-08-25 20:16:18 CEST] <rune> then I can see where the tracks and vias go
[2019-08-25 20:16:40 CEST] <rune> Yes, I have two spare and can get loads more. 2.50 each
[2019-08-25 20:17:04 CEST] <Guest399> IN thios case I will not send you one.
[2019-08-25 20:17:21 CEST] <Guest399> Do you use MIDI?
[2019-08-25 20:17:42 CEST] <rune> No, I dont have a musical bone in my body. Totally tone deaf
[2019-08-25 20:18:09 CEST] <rune> I like listening to music though. Just cant remember the tune 10 minutes later
[2019-08-25 20:18:19 CEST] <Guest399> I see. My question comes from the fact that the board supports MIDI. 
[2019-08-25 20:18:31 CEST] <Guest399> But there is no software upto now.
[2019-08-25 20:18:44 CEST] <rune> Im more interested in the RS232 for printing
[2019-08-25 20:19:02 CEST] <Guest399> This should be not a problem. 
[2019-08-25 20:19:23 CEST] <Guest399> But you have to decide what kind of RS232 connector you will use. 
[2019-08-25 20:19:27 CEST] <rune> Good, I got 5 small rs232 thermal printers
[2019-08-25 20:19:27 CEST] <Guest399> Male or female.
[2019-08-25 20:19:40 CEST] <rune> It will need to be male, same as the PC
[2019-08-25 20:19:48 CEST] <Guest399> The pcb is designed for female.
[2019-08-25 20:20:10 CEST] <rune> Or am I getting it the wrong way around
[2019-08-25 20:20:13 CEST] <Guest399> Therefoer I had to do a first modificartion.
[2019-08-25 20:20:23 CEST] <Guest399> I also use masle.
[2019-08-25 20:20:26 CEST] <Guest399> male.
[2019-08-25 20:20:34 CEST] <rune> I've 9 males. Will put a couple in with keyboard for you 
[2019-08-25 20:21:00 CEST] <Guest399> At most one.
[2019-08-25 20:21:11 CEST] <Guest399> Thank you.
[2019-08-25 20:21:33 CEST] <rune> I got it wrong, I need a female socket
[2019-08-25 20:21:55 CEST] <Guest399> The second modification concerns the RESET construction.
[2019-08-25 20:22:15 CEST] <rune> Reset... Zeddy or Pi
[2019-08-25 20:22:15 CEST] <Guest399> For female the board fits.
[2019-08-25 20:22:38 CEST] <rune> Good, I'll double check before building
[2019-08-25 20:22:40 CEST] <Guest399> RESET for the board, mainly the PIO onboard.
[2019-08-25 20:23:07 CEST] <Guest399> eThe board is designed to use the RESET from the Zeddy. 
[2019-08-25 20:23:11 CEST] <rune> Has it got a programmale IC.  Thought I saw a funny socket in list
[2019-08-25 20:23:34 CEST] <Guest399> But if you want to use the boasrd together with a ZX Spectrum this will caues problems.
[2019-08-25 20:23:54 CEST] <Guest399> causes
[2019-08-25 20:23:57 CEST] <rune> Reset line are different?
[2019-08-25 20:24:01 CEST] <Guest399> Yes.
[2019-08-25 20:24:31 CEST] <Guest399> Hence I decided to have an automatic RESET on board anbd did not connect the RESET lione at all.
[2019-08-25 20:24:34 CEST] <rune> So is one of the earths lines. Exists on Speccy but not Zeddy
[2019-08-25 20:25:18 CEST] <Guest399> The third modification is the use of a LED instead of a ZENER diode (3V):
[2019-08-25 20:25:39 CEST] <rune> To show power is on?
[2019-08-25 20:26:01 CEST] <Guest399> To show if the Zeddy is sending signals to the Pizero.
[2019-08-25 20:26:37 CEST] <Guest399> But signals have zero level, so the LED lights almost permanently.
[2019-08-25 20:26:52 CEST] <rune> Good modification. Just looked at edge connectors, Speccy on bottom, zeddy on top
[2019-08-25 20:27:12 CEST] <Guest399> I will send you the documents (if you don't have them).
[2019-08-25 20:27:31 CEST] <rune> Computers need flashing lights, I saw that on old scifi films
[2019-08-25 20:27:35 CEST] <Guest399> Yuo mean the RESET?You mena
[2019-08-25 20:27:56 CEST] <rune> I only have your notes just now.
[2019-08-25 20:28:14 CEST] <rune> yes reset lines
[2019-08-25 20:28:58 CEST] <Guest399> O.K.,
[2019-08-25 20:29:33 CEST] <Guest399> let us stop for today and and enjoy the nice evening.
[2019-08-25 20:29:34 CEST] <rune> Does the board need any programmed ICs, Gals etc?
[2019-08-25 20:29:41 CEST] <Guest399> No GALs.
[2019-08-25 20:30:06 CEST] <rune> OK, I'll talk to you next week. Remember to send my bill.
[2019-08-25 20:30:19 CEST] <rune> Bye.
[2019-08-25 20:30:30 CEST] <Guest399> Yes, I will do. Haave a nice week. Bye.
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[2019-08-25 20:31:28 CEST] <Guest399> iiiii
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