[2018-07-15 19:58:14 CEST] * heinz joined [2018-07-15 19:58:58 CEST] * rune joined [2018-07-15 19:59:09 CEST] hello heinz [2018-07-15 19:59:22 CEST] bit hot outside? [2018-07-15 20:02:10 CEST] hello dave, the weather here is perfect. [2018-07-15 20:02:29 CEST] its 30 here [2018-07-15 20:02:47 CEST] still, i got sheds painted [2018-07-15 20:03:23 CEST] which color did you choose? [2018-07-15 20:03:29 CEST] colour [2018-07-15 20:03:33 CEST] red cedar [2018-07-15 20:03:59 CEST] fine, should look nice. [2018-07-15 20:04:10 CEST] I picked up a woodworking router yesterday in the junk shop. [2018-07-15 20:04:13 CEST] did you get th ula:? [2018-07-15 20:04:41 CEST] what is a router? [2018-07-15 20:04:42 CEST] Yes, I havent done anything yet. Just got my shed cleared out yesterday and can see the work bench now [2018-07-15 20:05:08 CEST] It cuts fancy edges on wood and can cut slots for other wood to join [2018-07-15 20:05:30 CEST] Have you heard of tongue and groove joins? It makes those [2018-07-15 20:05:44 CEST] a typ of mortiser? [2018-07-15 20:05:50 CEST] Used in furniture/drawers [2018-07-15 20:06:10 CEST] Yes, maybe a bit more versatile [2018-07-15 20:06:21 CEST] yes, i know about tongue and groove jons. [2018-07-15 20:06:27 CEST] joins [2018-07-15 20:06:40 CEST] how much was it? [2018-07-15 20:07:10 CEST] 20.00 new ones are 35.00 but this came with a plunge attachment [2018-07-15 20:07:17 CEST] which costs as much again [2018-07-15 20:07:51 CEST] oh and also a guide to keep everything straight [2018-07-15 20:08:05 CEST] how do you want to use it? building cupboards? [2018-07-15 20:08:39 CEST] Yes Liz wants a narrow pull out cupboard for tins, bottle etc . It will go between the fridge and wall [2018-07-15 20:09:07 CEST] Also got to replace some window sills on the shed. [2018-07-15 20:09:10 CEST] it sounds like a lot of work. [2018-07-15 20:09:35 CEST] Yes, but buying one costs about 700.00 making one maye about 60.00 [2018-07-15 20:09:45 CEST] do you have a cirvcular saw too? [2018-07-15 20:10:03 CEST] Yes, and an electric plane and drills and sanders [2018-07-15 20:10:20 CEST] well equipped. [2018-07-15 20:10:26 CEST] and jig saws and heatguns that I delaminte PCBs with ;) [2018-07-15 20:11:03 CEST] jig saw? [2018-07-15 20:11:27 CEST] band saw? [2018-07-15 20:11:32 CEST] yes, long narrow blade to cut non-straight edges [2018-07-15 20:11:43 CEST] similar to band saw but in a hand tool [2018-07-15 20:11:49 CEST] Maybe called sabre saw? [2018-07-15 20:12:32 CEST] yes, that it is how we call it. [2018-07-15 20:12:53 CEST] or padsaw. [2018-07-15 20:12:55 CEST] They are slightly different, [2018-07-15 20:13:30 CEST] now i found the word jigsaw in the dictionary (leo) [2018-07-15 20:13:30 CEST] But useful to cut into wood instead of starting at an edge [2018-07-15 20:14:20 CEST] Any news on zx81 front? [2018-07-15 20:14:43 CEST] willyou use also glas for liz"s board? [2018-07-15 20:15:23 CEST] No, its only about 150mm wide. I will probably put formica on the front but paint the rest white [2018-07-15 20:16:05 CEST] fornica? [2018-07-15 20:16:08 CEST] I'll put feet on it and an extendible bracket to hold it to the wall [2018-07-15 20:16:13 CEST] inlay? [2018-07-15 20:16:48 CEST] Formica, not inlay. It was used on kitchen furniture in 60's 70's [2018-07-15 20:16:58 CEST] i see. [2018-07-15 20:17:11 CEST] Very thin, flat, gets glued on [2018-07-15 20:17:16 CEST] you have to glue it under heat? [2018-07-15 20:17:24 CEST] It will give a nice white finish [2018-07-15 20:18:03 CEST] No, the glue is some sort of volatile stuff. Spread on, allowed to become tacky and formica laid on top. [2018-07-15 20:18:18 CEST] I think another modern version is melamine?> [2018-07-15 20:18:34 CEST] ula: i have ordered two by paul, waiting for shipping. [2018-07-15 20:18:54 CEST] ~nd one nebula for te spectrum in england. [2018-07-15 20:19:21 CEST] nebula? From retroleum, for the spectrum? [2018-07-15 20:19:27 CEST] right. [2018-07-15 20:19:33 CEST] 17 pounds. [2018-07-15 20:19:37 CEST] I like the guy that runs retroleum [2018-07-15 20:19:52 CEST] do you know him peresonally? [2018-07-15 20:19:57 CEST] I got an SD loader/Joystick interface. [2018-07-15 20:20:01 CEST] personally [2018-07-15 20:20:21 CEST] Just by talking a short while. He probably wont remember me, but he did take the time to reply. [2018-07-15 20:20:47 CEST] Guy how does Tynesoft (ZX 81 clone) is same [2018-07-15 20:21:10 CEST] i have a faultyspectrum board, may be that it will run again with the nebula. [2018-07-15 20:21:57 CEST] last sunday we have been in frankfurt. [2018-07-15 20:22:07 CEST] yes, hope so. he also does nice ram replacement boards [2018-07-15 20:22:20 CEST] Holiday? [2018-07-15 20:22:35 CEST] the wife of our son was pregnant, but now we have two two male grandsons. [2018-07-15 20:22:50 CEST] Twins? [2018-07-15 20:22:54 CEST] yes. [2018-07-15 20:23:07 CEST] Surprise, or did she know? [2018-07-15 20:23:19 CEST] i little bit to early, but healthy. [2018-07-15 20:23:45 CEST] official date should be beginning of august. [2018-07-15 20:23:47 CEST] Good, kids are brilliant, gives us the escuse to get the toys out [2018-07-15 20:23:59 CEST] right. [2018-07-15 20:24:22 CEST] Not too soon then. Liz was 3 months early. She got preclamsia, whhich was very bad [2018-07-15 20:24:45 CEST] Her daughter was 1 kilo [2018-07-15 20:24:54 CEST] how long had the child stay in the hospital? [2018-07-15 20:25:03 CEST] to stay [2018-07-15 20:25:57 CEST] A long time, month or so. Liz was rushed to another hospital too as she had that Preaclampsia and also a DVT in her leg. they put her on Warfarin to stop blood clots going to the brain or heart [2018-07-15 20:26:44 CEST] every thing went fine finally? [2018-07-15 20:27:13 CEST] Oh yes, they are both fighting fit now. [2018-07-15 20:27:21 CEST] Usually with each other [2018-07-15 20:28:04 CEST] What version spectrum are you repairing [2018-07-15 20:28:30 CEST] i think it is a iss3 board. [2018-07-15 20:28:50 CEST] rubber keys then. how is the keymat and metalwork? [2018-07-15 20:29:02 CEST] last week ive bought a dash cam. [2018-07-15 20:29:30 CEST] spectrum is just the board. no cover. [2018-07-15 20:29:34 CEST] I see them at 20.00 here and my friend at work has one [2018-07-15 20:29:54 CEST] Do you get insurance reduction if you has a cam [2018-07-15 20:29:57 CEST] is it allowed to use them in uk? [2018-07-15 20:30:32 CEST] because of privacy protectin? [2018-07-15 20:30:37 CEST] Yes, they are also pushing black boxes which record and warn if you accelerate, speed or break too hard [2018-07-15 20:30:40 CEST] tion [2018-07-15 20:31:09 CEST] They they dont record more than 30 minutes or so of info [2018-07-15 20:31:22 CEST] I supose someone will complain [2018-07-15 20:31:29 CEST] those cams were forbidden in germany in the past. [2018-07-15 20:31:45 CEST] Because of privacy? [2018-07-15 20:31:49 CEST] yes. [2018-07-15 20:32:07 CEST] Biggest problem we have is people with no insurance or tax [2018-07-15 20:32:34 CEST] i think we dont have such people. [2018-07-15 20:32:52 CEST] normally. [2018-07-15 20:33:00 CEST] Lots of foreign cars dont bother to register in UK despite having to do so after 4 weeks [2018-07-15 20:33:22 CEST] i see. [2018-07-15 20:33:24 CEST] Its too much trouble for police to prosecute them [2018-07-15 20:33:52 CEST] They only do so in serious cases. Meantime, thousands are driving with no insurance [2018-07-15 20:34:10 CEST] so mainly foreigners. [2018-07-15 20:34:35 CEST] Yes [2018-07-15 20:35:00 CEST] And some inner city communities. One license fits all [2018-07-15 20:35:01 CEST] is this connected with the eu? [2018-07-15 20:35:24 CEST] will it change? [2018-07-15 20:35:28 CEST] Newer members, also from further east and south [2018-07-15 20:36:21 CEST] back to the cupboard. [2018-07-15 20:36:24 CEST] I doubt it will change, governments dont want to be seen are infringing peoples rights. Even when the majority of people who obey the law are disadvantaged [2018-07-15 20:36:36 CEST] OK, [2018-07-15 20:37:05 CEST] how much hours do you expect to work for it? [2018-07-15 20:37:26 CEST] Probably about 2 days [2018-07-15 20:37:28 CEST] two week will be needed. [2018-07-15 20:37:43 CEST] but I hope to retire in a few months [2018-07-15 20:37:51 CEST] 2 days? you will need a lot of parts. [2018-07-15 20:38:08 CEST] Day one will be cutting the wood. Day two assembling it [2018-07-15 20:38:18 CEST] you spoke about drawers. [2018-07-15 20:38:19 CEST] 6 months later I'll put the handle on [2018-07-15 20:38:27 CEST] No drawers [2018-07-15 20:38:50 CEST] doors? [2018-07-15 20:38:57 CEST] sides are open. On one side I put a 75mm piece of wood [2018-07-15 20:39:07 CEST] other side a wooden dowel [2018-07-15 20:39:28 CEST] 75mm? [2018-07-15 20:39:29 CEST] No doors. Imagine the fridge sitting 150mm from a wall [2018-07-15 20:39:35 CEST] so thick? [2018-07-15 20:39:40 CEST] Tall [2018-07-15 20:39:50 CEST] 7mm thick [2018-07-15 20:39:57 CEST] i see. [2018-07-15 20:40:10 CEST] base is 600x150 [2018-07-15 20:40:14 CEST] cant imagine the construction [2018-07-15 20:40:16 CEST] on four wheels [2018-07-15 20:40:33 CEST] then there is a front and back 2mx150mm [2018-07-15 20:40:42 CEST] then a top same as the base [2018-07-15 20:41:01 CEST] then shelves every 200-300 mm [2018-07-15 20:41:12 CEST] hight? [2018-07-15 20:41:25 CEST] 2000mm [2018-07-15 20:41:56 CEST] it will slide out along the wall and when past the fridge you can access the selves [2018-07-15 20:42:42 CEST] It will be fixed to the wall using similar (but bigger) slides like used in kitched drawers [2018-07-15 20:42:57 CEST] 600x2000 could be very instable. [2018-07-15 20:43:01 CEST] Its only to hold tins, bottles etc [2018-07-15 20:43:11 CEST] Not when attacked to the wall [2018-07-15 20:43:28 CEST] but you have wheels. [2018-07-15 20:43:38 CEST] yes [2018-07-15 20:43:41 CEST] https://www.amazon.co.uk/Basket-Kitchen-Cabinet-Cupboard-Storage/dp/B0744JHFCC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1531679825&sr=8-4&keywords=pull+out+cupboard [2018-07-15 20:44:30 CEST] The sliders are to the right [2018-07-15 20:45:00 CEST] The cupboard will be similar to that one but with a wooden front/back [2018-07-15 20:45:10 CEST] this looks like made from metal [2018-07-15 20:45:15 CEST] and a differt size [2018-07-15 20:45:34 CEST] Yes, but it illustrates the slider and shelf. [2018-07-15 20:45:44 CEST] now i see. [2018-07-15 20:45:57 CEST] I may use that instead of wooden shelves [2018-07-15 20:46:12 CEST] not sure how tal it is but maybe use 3 or so [2018-07-15 20:46:21 CEST] when you will start with it? [2018-07-15 20:47:00 CEST] Not for a bit, Im laying atrificial grass just now. [2018-07-15 20:47:15 CEST] that should take about 2 weeks more [2018-07-15 20:47:36 CEST] I have most of the dirt dug out and will get 2000 Kilo of 4mm dust for the base [2018-07-15 20:47:41 CEST] why no natural grass? [2018-07-15 20:47:57 CEST] The dog kills it when he goes to the toilet [2018-07-15 20:48:05 CEST] and I dont like cutting it [2018-07-15 20:48:22 CEST] Oh and the boss wants it [2018-07-15 20:48:52 CEST] is this kind of grass very popular in uk? [2018-07-15 20:49:05 CEST] Its getting more popular [2018-07-15 20:49:21 CEST] how much for 1 sqare meter? [2018-07-15 20:49:24 CEST] Costs about 20.00 per m^2 [2018-07-15 20:49:27 CEST] square [2018-07-15 20:49:53 CEST] reasonable price. [2018-07-15 20:50:01 CEST] I have 4 m^2 in the back needing done. Rest is patio, decking and stones [2018-07-15 20:50:13 CEST] and it can be used for a couple of years. [2018-07-15 20:50:31 CEST] no, 16 m^2... It can be used for ever as far as I know [2018-07-15 20:51:14 CEST] Web says 20 years [2018-07-15 20:51:24 CEST] i wish you good success with it. [2018-07-15 20:51:54 CEST] next sunday ? [2018-07-15 20:51:58 CEST] Thanks, I've been digging for weeks. Thought I found an old coin. But it was new [2018-07-15 20:52:07 CEST] Yes, next sunday is good [2018-07-15 20:52:27 CEST] have a nice time until then. [2018-07-15 20:52:30 CEST] bye. [2018-07-15 20:52:37 CEST] You too and good luck with the Speccy [2018-07-15 20:52:39 CEST] Bye [2018-07-15 20:52:44 CEST] * rune quit (Leaving) [2018-07-15 20:52:46 CEST] * heinz quit (EOT)