[2017-04-17 19:32:48 CEST] * sbetamax joined [2017-04-17 20:11:37 CEST] * zx81jens joined [2017-04-17 20:11:48 CEST] hey sbeta [2017-04-17 20:12:00 CEST] hi jens [2017-04-17 20:12:12 CEST] schoene rest ostern [2017-04-17 20:14:24 CEST] dir auch! [2017-04-17 20:15:16 CEST] was gibt es neues? [2017-04-17 20:17:37 CEST] nicht viel hab ein wehnig gebastellt [2017-04-17 20:17:59 CEST] zweiter nu mit drive von stefan [2017-04-17 20:19:03 CEST] und in paar modifikationen an der netzwerkkarte [2017-04-17 20:19:32 CEST] ah. ich bin gerade dabei, meinen husband-forth-zx aufzumoebeln. der soll auch das vdrive bekommen. heinz wird im forum das rom bereitstellen [2017-04-17 20:20:00 CEST] was fuer modifikationen? [2017-04-17 20:21:09 CEST] reset-schaltung an den Bus gehaengt [2017-04-17 20:21:20 CEST] ein paar abblockkondensatoren [2017-04-17 20:21:59 CEST] oh, das ist gut. olli ist dabei, wlan an die karte zu bringen. [2017-04-17 20:22:08 CEST] die stuerzt ja ab und an ab [2017-04-17 20:22:14 CEST] ok [2017-04-17 20:22:16 CEST] cool [2017-04-17 20:22:31 CEST] mit welchem chipp? [2017-04-17 20:22:46 CEST] oder mit zeddynetkarte? [2017-04-17 20:23:17 CEST] vielleicht helfen die kondensatoren ja schon, damit deine karte nicht immer die verbindung abbricht?! [2017-04-17 20:24:06 CEST] ja, mit der zeddynetkarte. er ersetzt das wiznet [2017-04-17 20:24:14 CEST] aber womit weiss ich nicht [2017-04-17 20:26:35 CEST] ok [2017-04-17 20:26:43 CEST] klingt spannend [2017-04-17 20:30:00 CEST] ich frage ihn mal [2017-04-17 20:31:55 CEST] ok [2017-04-17 20:32:05 CEST] hangouts? [2017-04-17 20:33:01 CEST] jupp [2017-04-17 20:33:24 CEST] hattest du meine whatsapp nachricht bekommen? [2017-04-17 20:33:37 CEST] bzw zuordnen koennen [2017-04-17 20:36:17 CEST] 0lli sagt, er hat mit dem mkr1000 rumgemacht. klappt aber noch nicht richtig [2017-04-17 20:36:55 CEST] rumgemacht? :) [2017-04-17 20:40:37 CEST] rumprobiert ;-) [2017-04-17 20:42:19 CEST] hab das dingens gefunden sieht aehnlich aus [2017-04-17 21:10:28 CEST] bin kurz offline rom tauschen [2017-04-17 21:12:27 CEST] * sbetamax quit ([Errno 104] Connection reset by peer) [2017-04-17 21:13:21 CEST] * sbetamax joined [2017-04-17 21:16:26 CEST] hello again [2017-04-17 21:16:35 CEST] ja [2017-04-17 21:16:44 CEST] da isser wieder [2017-04-17 21:17:02 CEST] danke fuer den Kleber [2017-04-17 21:18:56 CEST] gerne [2017-04-17 21:19:39 CEST] mal sehen was der schluepfergummi noch so bringt [2017-04-17 21:31:02 CEST] habt ihr einen festen tag? wo ihr euch trefft? [2017-04-17 21:32:12 CEST] * sbetamax quit (EOT) [2017-04-17 23:23:35 CEST] * zx81jens quit (EOT) [2017-04-18 10:09:04 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-18 10:09:18 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-20 22:17:39 CEST] * fuzb joined [2017-04-21 01:15:48 CEST] * fuzb joined [2017-04-21 01:22:09 CEST] * Hanno joined [2017-04-21 01:22:24 CEST] Hi fuzb [2017-04-21 01:23:24 CEST] Been updating my server, things are not quite ok again yet so it can be I'll have to restart again. [2017-04-21 01:30:34 CEST] * Hanno joined [2017-04-21 01:34:55 CEST] * fuzb joined [2017-04-21 02:27:16 CEST] * Hanno quit (Verlassend) [2017-04-21 07:35:36 CEST] ok :) [2017-04-21 19:58:55 CEST] * hurga joined [2017-04-21 20:00:03 CEST] ok, testing a new version of the server. need to restart [2017-04-21 20:00:09 CEST] * hurga quit (EOT) [2017-04-21 20:01:17 CEST] * hurga joined [2017-04-21 20:01:24 CEST] test [2017-04-21 20:05:18 CEST] * fuzb joined [2017-04-21 20:13:43 CEST] wb fuzb [2017-04-21 20:14:12 CEST] server s updated... please check if anything seems funky to you. [2017-04-21 20:23:18 CEST] server version looks the same :) [2017-04-21 20:26:20 CEST] right, it"s probably just the bug fixes i submitted to the maintainer anyway :) [2017-04-21 20:43:41 CEST] mine has ngircd-22.. seems to work OK [2017-04-21 20:48:15 CEST] with zx-irc too? :) [2017-04-21 20:48:55 CEST] nope.. I don't own a ZX yet :( [2017-04-21 20:49:04 CEST] aww [2017-04-21 20:50:07 CEST] well, i'm here with zx-irc, but it's just an emulated client currently. patched sz81 [2017-04-21 20:50:33 CEST] or rather, real zx client on emulated hardware. [2017-04-21 20:51:29 CEST] I have an amiga 600 if I feel like retroing but I think this machine is just a PC [2017-04-21 20:51:36 CEST] some kind of a virtual server somewhere in germany [2017-04-21 20:51:48 CEST] it is boring [2017-04-21 20:52:25 CEST] the server, you mean? [2017-04-21 20:52:31 CEST] yes [2017-04-21 20:52:40 CEST] PCs are boring :) [2017-04-21 20:53:22 CEST] indeed. well, an irc server on a zx81 would be... challenging :) [2017-04-21 20:54:14 CEST] I'm happy that we're able to have a real irc client on real zx hardware by now. [2017-04-21 20:54:58 CEST] and it still is cheating... the whole tcp stack runs on embedded hardware dozens of time more powerful than the zx. [2017-04-21 21:18:18 CEST] yeah.. a bit of cheating but still fun :) [2017-04-21 21:18:51 CEST] with the esp8266 modules for a few dollars one can get a wifi connection for many old computers.. as long they have a serial port [2017-04-21 21:18:58 CEST] my friend built one for C64 [2017-04-21 21:20:59 CEST] right... unfortunately the zx81 does not have a serial port and I won't do bitbanging because cycles are in short supply and timing is quirky because of the video generation. [2017-04-21 21:22:20 CEST] zx81 is quite a limited machine actually [2017-04-21 21:22:27 CEST] but I guess that's fun for tinkering :) [2017-04-21 21:23:26 CEST] indeed... and it's really super simple hardware used to the max [2017-04-21 21:24:43 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-21 21:24:53 CEST] my plan for the esp8266 is to use a MCP23017 I/O expander to serial to parallel conversion. that way it should be usable for the zx81 [2017-04-21 21:25:05 CEST] hello [2017-04-21 21:25:38 CEST] well, if i have time and energy for that... has been in short supply for way too long [2017-04-21 21:25:55 CEST] hi paul, good to see you :) [2017-04-21 21:26:27 CEST] * hurga changed nickname to Hanno [2017-04-21 21:26:38 CEST] nice to see you. im testing a zeddynet that i ship to australia tomorrow [2017-04-21 21:27:03 CEST] cool :) [2017-04-21 21:27:16 CEST] just here with emulated hardware currently [2017-04-21 21:27:35 CEST] im on a zx81nu [2017-04-21 21:27:54 CEST] needed to update the server os, I hope things still work as they did before. [2017-04-21 21:28:12 CEST] looks ok to me [2017-04-21 21:28:28 CEST] hello [2017-04-21 21:28:32 CEST] just in case... you know who to blame :) [2017-04-21 21:29:22 CEST] i will be afk for a short while i need to test four more zeddynet that will ship to usa and uk tomorrow [2017-04-21 21:30:21 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-21 21:30:27 CEST] I hope that means there will be some more participants for this chat :) [2017-04-21 21:31:53 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-21 21:32:29 CEST] no two is working :-) [2017-04-21 21:32:54 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-21 21:34:24 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-21 21:34:42 CEST] 3rd one working too :) [2017-04-21 21:34:47 CEST] no three is working [2017-04-21 21:35:01 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-21 21:36:19 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-21 21:36:22 CEST] paul: send them a copy of the zx-irc client too, maybe that means some more traffic for this chat :) [2017-04-21 21:36:52 CEST] shure i will send them a link [2017-04-21 21:37:11 CEST] the fourth is also running in c [2017-04-21 21:37:46 CEST] i have more time with the next one [2017-04-21 21:37:52 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-21 21:39:50 CEST] * paul joined [2017-04-21 21:40:04 CEST] all workiing [2017-04-21 21:40:12 CEST] good job :) [2017-04-21 21:40:44 CEST] i guess there would be more online if we announced this in the forums [2017-04-21 21:41:45 CEST] my schedule is rather erratic unfortunately [2017-04-21 21:42:03 CEST] fuzb: did you get your zeddynet from me or are you also just emulatiing? [2017-04-21 21:42:26 CEST] paul: just PC.. sorry :( [2017-04-21 21:43:20 CEST] i need more zx81nu so i can be online simultaneously [2017-04-21 21:43:21 CEST] if I had a ZX81.. I guess 1k wouldn't be enough for zeddynet? [2017-04-21 21:44:17 CEST] no but 32k would be ok. zxpand for example or zxblast. [2017-04-21 21:44:50 CEST] how about a super zeddynet with ram and rom ? [2017-04-21 21:45:00 CEST] i prefer zx81nu because it can autostart the chat from built in flash drive [2017-04-21 21:45:30 CEST] i still have zx81nu and zeddynet pcb for sale [2017-04-21 21:46:50 CEST] originally zeddynet comes from our zx96 computers which have mefisdos and up to 4 meg ram [2017-04-21 21:47:25 CEST] oh, I see [2017-04-21 21:48:15 CEST] thats why it comes with busdrivers and wider bus system [2017-04-21 21:49:32 CEST] if it becomes available, spectrum next will be a nice platform for zeddynet [2017-04-21 21:50:24 CEST] the hardware was developed from spectranet [2017-04-21 21:52:09 CEST] im leaving now, got some packages to pack [2017-04-21 21:52:26 CEST] see you :) [2017-04-21 21:52:31 CEST] ok, bye :) [2017-04-21 21:52:33 CEST] see you [2017-04-21 21:52:39 CEST] * paul quit (EOT) [2017-04-22 00:23:40 CEST] * Hanno quit (EOT) [2017-04-23 15:14:51 CEST] * sbetamax joined [2017-04-23 16:35:51 CEST] * sbetamax quit (ping timeout) [2017-04-23 19:55:08 CEST] * rune joined [2017-04-23 20:02:19 CEST] * heinz joined [2017-04-23 20:02:29 CEST] hello dave [2017-04-23 20:02:36 CEST] hello Heinz [2017-04-23 20:02:45 CEST] how are you? [2017-04-23 20:02:58 CEST] Im good, a bit tired [2017-04-23 20:03:11 CEST] was working all weekend tidying shed [2017-04-23 20:03:17 CEST] long way to southend? [2017-04-23 20:03:27 CEST] Dont talk about that... [2017-04-23 20:03:44 CEST] All in we spent 9 working days and it didnt work. [2017-04-23 20:03:54 CEST] Turned out my boss set the thing up wrong [2017-04-23 20:04:03 CEST] cause of wrong docs? [2017-04-23 20:04:23 CEST] No he assumed the site was on-street instead of off-street [2017-04-23 20:04:36 CEST] main point, you found the error. [2017-04-23 20:04:43 CEST] I even asked him to rechyeck second time it failed to migrate [2017-04-23 20:05:06 CEST] that is frustrating. [2017-04-23 20:05:06 CEST] Yes, took us 40 minutes to do all machines on Thursday [2017-04-23 20:05:37 CEST] But now that project should be finished, I will get a little free time [2017-04-23 20:05:40 CEST] how did you spend eastern? [2017-04-23 20:05:53 CEST] We reupholstered our sofa [2017-04-23 20:06:11 CEST] sounds funny. [2017-04-23 20:06:18 CEST] New straps and foam in cushions. Had to remove and reinster about 3000 staples [2017-04-23 20:06:35 CEST] Its much more comfortable now [2017-04-23 20:06:55 CEST] congratulation for good job. [2017-04-23 20:07:00 CEST] Today I desoldered ram on 3 ZX81s and installed sockets [2017-04-23 20:07:16 CEST] I tested 2 with CCB and rampack [2017-04-23 20:07:42 CEST] Im sure Im getting a back porch but no signal. I wonder if the TV is at fault [2017-04-23 20:07:44 CEST] should i send you a vdrive? [2017-04-23 20:07:57 CEST] Yes please let me know what to pay [2017-04-23 20:08:04 CEST] do you use uhf? [2017-04-23 20:08:15 CEST] No composite [2017-04-23 20:08:18 CEST] on tv? [2017-04-23 20:08:27 CEST] used pokemons board [2017-04-23 20:08:41 CEST] do you have a workking one? [2017-04-23 20:08:46 CEST] Yes, TV has lots of different inputs including VGA [2017-04-23 20:09:03 CEST] i mean i working zx81? [2017-04-23 20:09:04 CEST] Yes, thats the next test but Im finished for today [2017-04-23 20:10:05 CEST] (f you want to use the vdrive you need 16k ram (inside best) [2017-04-23 20:10:06 CEST] Got your H4th program, but havent entered it yet. I was away 3 days this week [2017-04-23 20:10:24 CEST] and 16k eprom. [2017-04-23 20:10:42 CEST] i have also a 8k verson. [2017-04-23 20:10:48 CEST] I have the RAM, just need to cut the tracks and add links. But I'd like to get the board working with RAM pack first [2017-04-23 20:11:03 CEST] 8K RAM? [2017-04-23 20:11:15 CEST] but with this saaving to tape wouldnt be possible anymore. [2017-04-23 20:11:24 CEST] 8k rom [2017-04-23 20:11:49 CEST] So, ROM is now 16K? [2017-04-23 20:12:44 CEST] yes, the new forth-words are sitting in the rom extension starting at 02000h [2017-04-23 20:13:07 CEST] OK, how much space is actually used? [2017-04-23 20:13:14 CEST] in the 8k version i have over written load/store [2017-04-23 20:13:24 CEST] 350 bytes. [2017-04-23 20:13:30 CEST] used. [2017-04-23 20:13:59 CEST] So, it should be possible to add losts more words? Ivf you were clever enough [2017-04-23 20:14:32 CEST] you could add more words. [2017-04-23 20:14:42 CEST] if you like. [2017-04-23 20:14:55 CEST] a lot of fre space remains. [2017-04-23 20:15:00 CEST] free [2017-04-23 20:15:19 CEST] interesting, I like Forth a lot. Wish I had persevered back in the 80s to learn it [2017-04-23 20:15:34 CEST] erik (bokjee) has teached me how to do. [2017-04-23 20:15:59 CEST] ive sent you my prime number pgm. [2017-04-23 20:16:12 CEST] by email. [2017-04-23 20:16:24 CEST] Yes, I didnt get a chance to enter it yet. I'll do that next week [2017-04-23 20:16:28 CEST] at work :) [2017-04-23 20:16:57 CEST] the price for the vrive is 12eur. [2017-04-23 20:17:06 CEST] OK and postage [2017-04-23 20:17:18 CEST] shipping as letter would be possible. [2017-04-23 20:17:56 CEST] 5 euros enough for post? [2017-04-23 20:17:57 CEST] by letter 3.70eur. [2017-04-23 20:18:28 CEST] might be even as small letter. 1.50eur. [2017-04-23 20:18:36 CEST] OK, I use your email address to pay? [2017-04-23 20:18:42 CEST] i have to weight the board. [2017-04-23 20:18:52 CEST] 50grams are allowed. [2017-04-23 20:19:16 CEST] just wait with paying. [2017-04-23 20:19:32 CEST] but send your address once more. [2017-04-23 20:19:43 CEST] OK, I was in paypal. Its no problem paying extra and having credit with you [2017-04-23 20:20:13 CEST] you already did it? [2017-04-23 20:21:01 CEST] No, but I was just about to send 18 Euros [2017-04-23 20:21:34 CEST] wait, i will weight the letter. [2017-04-23 20:21:44 CEST] tomorrow. [2017-04-23 20:21:46 CEST] OK. [2017-04-23 20:21:49 CEST] Will do [2017-04-23 20:22:11 CEST] My bike started first turn yesterday. next week Im on leave for 9 days [2017-04-23 20:22:25 CEST] So I will get out for a few runs if its nice weather [2017-04-23 20:22:59 CEST] allone or with your wife? [2017-04-23 20:23:04 CEST] alone [2017-04-23 20:23:56 CEST] alone, she is working. But we plan to go to Hay on Wye on her days off. That town is full of bookshops. [2017-04-23 20:24:15 CEST] You get lots of good books for very litytle money [2017-04-23 20:24:21 CEST] little [2017-04-23 20:24:21 CEST] in what region of england? [2017-04-23 20:24:30 CEST] Its in Wales. [2017-04-23 20:24:42 CEST] Every second shop sells books [2017-04-23 20:25:18 CEST] Funny thing is there are not many places to eat and there are also lots of hardware (tools) shops and secondhand shops [2017-04-23 20:26:08 CEST] i wish you good buy. [2017-04-23 20:26:27 CEST] Yes, treasure everywhere - or more junk as liz would say [2017-04-23 20:26:37 CEST] yo will need a trailer for your bike. [2017-04-23 20:26:58 CEST] I have two cases on the side and a box at the back. [2017-04-23 20:27:17 CEST] seems to be enough space. [2017-04-23 20:27:19 CEST] Should be good for 2 dozen books [2017-04-23 20:27:29 CEST] ok. [2017-04-23 20:27:38 CEST] lets stop for today. [2017-04-23 20:27:42 CEST] Finish time [2017-04-23 20:27:48 CEST] yes. [2017-04-23 20:27:49 CEST] yes, I need to eat. [2017-04-23 20:27:55 CEST] hve a good week. [2017-04-23 20:28:04 CEST] have [2017-04-23 20:28:07 CEST] I'll try your program and talk next week [2017-04-23 20:28:13 CEST] You too, bye [2017-04-23 20:28:18 CEST] bye. [2017-04-23 20:28:24 CEST] * heinz quit (EOT) [2017-04-23 20:28:25 CEST] * rune quit (Leaving)