[2016-11-21 19:40:49 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-21 20:04:42 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-21 20:29:56 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-21 20:30:13 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-21 20:54:17 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-21 20:59:52 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-22 22:10:34 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-22 23:05:15 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-23 21:12:26 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-23 22:11:22 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-25 22:43:01 CET] * Outsoft joined [2016-11-26 20:27:44 CET] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-11-27 19:58:32 CET] * heinz joined [2016-11-27 20:02:56 CET] * rune joined [2016-11-27 20:03:13 CET] Hello Heinz, how are things tonight [2016-11-27 20:04:15 CET] well, thanks. [2016-11-27 20:04:21 CET] ~nd you? [2016-11-27 20:04:35 CET] Im good, bit cold outside though :) [2016-11-27 20:04:44 CET] here too. [2016-11-27 20:04:52 CET] 4 celsius [2016-11-27 20:05:09 CET] Not sure what it is here, but the dog wont stay out [2016-11-27 20:05:43 CET] he is an outdoor- dog, isnt it? [2016-11-27 20:06:26 CET] Sometimes, he will go out in all weather if I am with him. If he is on his own he wants to come in the house. [2016-11-27 20:06:55 CET] He had to walk through water tonight in the woods - he didnt like that [2016-11-27 20:07:25 CET] did you walk this afternoon? [2016-11-27 20:07:49 CET] after lunch walk? [2016-11-27 20:07:55 CET] Yes twice, there are paths open now that the brambles and bracken have died off [2016-11-27 20:08:12 CET] Finding old mine workings and pits I never knew existed [2016-11-27 20:08:56 CET] coal mines? [2016-11-27 20:09:03 CET] or silver? [2016-11-27 20:09:34 CET] Yes, the coal was very close to the surface so you find lots of places the tunnel has collapsed [2016-11-27 20:09:56 CET] Silver? I wish... Found a gold ring with my metal detector though [2016-11-27 20:10:23 CET] it is a good start. [2016-11-27 20:10:25 CET] Not too old, maybe 1960's [2016-11-27 20:10:39 CET] next a crown and some brillies [2016-11-27 20:10:55 CET] Yep, my new get rich plan is to invest silver - crowns and dollars [2016-11-27 20:11:53 CET] yuo ve assked me for roelof [2016-11-27 20:12:19 CET] enigma? [2016-11-27 20:12:26 CET] yes. [2016-11-27 20:12:36 CET] the program is ready [2016-11-27 20:12:50 CET] excellent, can I get a copy? [2016-11-27 20:13:21 CET] i will ask him, i think he will agree [2016-11-27 20:13:35 CET] good, thanks. [2016-11-27 20:13:53 CET] together with a collection of radiograms [2016-11-27 20:13:59 CET] I saw one on the web. I never knew there were so many combinations of rotors [2016-11-27 20:14:26 CET] Whats radiograms? Morse code and stuff? [2016-11-27 20:14:43 CET] the submarines have usedd enigma4 with four wheels. [2016-11-27 20:14:56 CET] out of 8 items [2016-11-27 20:15:14 CET] thiis is covered by rokos pgm [2016-11-27 20:16:00 CET] this one the 48k spectrum? [2016-11-27 20:16:02 CET] no morse code, but txt, groups of 5 letters [2016-11-27 20:16:33 CET] ok, so these are the messages that were transmitted? [2016-11-27 20:16:56 CET] one with plaintext: the leader is dead, the battle goes on. [2016-11-27 20:17:45 CET] Do the coded messages preserve the spaces between words? or do the words follow each other? [2016-11-27 20:18:01 CET] last one. [2016-11-27 20:18:08 CET] no spaces [2016-11-27 20:18:33 CET] and lots of abbrev to shorten txt [2016-11-27 20:18:41 CET] I suppose spaces may make it less secure [2016-11-27 20:18:49 CET] water bombs = wabos [2016-11-27 20:19:35 CET] Out of context wabos could be anmything? Who needs encoding [2016-11-27 20:20:01 CET] during war or now? [2016-11-27 20:20:38 CET] Anytime? I guess only words that wouldnt be mistaken would be shortedned [2016-11-27 20:20:58 CET] yes, right. [2016-11-27 20:21:17 CET] have you tried the new ZX/Spectrum BBS? [2016-11-27 20:21:52 CET] another problem: if onne letter is wrong, the rest of the encoded messagee should be still readable. [2016-11-27 20:22:00 CET] bbss? [2016-11-27 20:22:07 CET] bbs? [2016-11-27 20:22:37 CET] Yes, before the internet - people would host small Buletin Board sites on their own PCs [2016-11-27 20:23:08 CET] no didnt try [2016-11-27 20:23:18 CET] These were usually subject specific and a lot of fun. Maybe only a few concurrent connections [2016-11-27 20:23:23 CET] i like real hardware. [2016-11-27 20:23:53 CET] did i sent you picturess of my vdive [2016-11-27 20:24:05 CET] ? in-build? [2016-11-27 20:24:09 CET] Not yet, I was wondering about it [2016-11-27 20:24:27 CET] sorry, ive foorgootten about it. [2016-11-27 20:24:33 CET] Im looking for a laptop with a parallel port so I can use my eprom burner [2016-11-27 20:24:39 CET] willl do it omorroow. [2016-11-27 20:24:57 CET] Thanks, no rush, I believe I need a new Eprom [2016-11-27 20:25:00 CET] too [2016-11-27 20:25:07 CET] what kind of burnner? [2016-11-27 20:25:43 CET] Im not sure. It needs windows 98 and a parallel port. Roko said it was the same as one of his [2016-11-27 20:26:11 CET] Or one he had sometime. Its good for the Eproms for the Harlequin [2016-11-27 20:26:39 CET] may be you can find a com1-to-lpt? [2016-11-27 20:27:15 CET] Yes, I think the problem will be Win 98 drivers if they are needed. [2016-11-27 20:27:17 CET] ive built a burner in 1983 for zx spectrum [2016-11-27 20:27:29 CET] i still use it. [2016-11-27 20:27:44 CET] I found my old Dell at work. it needs new hinges which I got for 4.99 [2016-11-27 20:28:01 CET] onebay a burner costs about 50euro [2016-11-27 20:28:33 CET] Yes, but you are a smart technical guy. I just usually take good componnents and build something that doesnt work [2016-11-27 20:28:37 CET] no paralport? [2016-11-27 20:29:04 CET] Nope, but I think I know where some older laptops are.... [2016-11-27 20:29:32 CET] i could ask iin the forum ffor a parralel- serialconverter on com1 [2016-11-27 20:29:33 CET] I through out a couple of Toshibas that would have worked a few years ago [2016-11-27 20:29:56 CET] That would be good. I'll check amazon and ebay [2016-11-27 20:30:19 CET] Needs to work with Win 98 because the burner software only works with that OS [2016-11-27 20:30:53 CET] does it work with com1? [2016-11-27 20:31:35 CET] or only lpt? [2016-11-27 20:31:36 CET] I dont think so. I'll need to check. its in the shed just now [2016-11-27 20:32:25 CET] can you erase thee eproms? [2016-11-27 20:32:47 CET] Yes, I bought a UV box from China [2016-11-27 20:33:04 CET] Through the little window on top of the chip [2016-11-27 20:33:15 CET] then it makes sense to use the old burner. [2016-11-27 20:33:33 CET] I got 10 chips from the computer guy next to us at work [2016-11-27 20:33:48 CET] otherwise i would recommend the eeproms 28c256 [2016-11-27 20:33:58 CET] instead of 27c256 [2016-11-27 20:34:26 CET] So, 20c256 are erased electrically? [2016-11-27 20:34:32 CET] yes, [2016-11-27 20:34:46 CET] but your burner will not burn theese. [2016-11-27 20:35:14 CET] I have a couple of diagnostic boards which the software wouldnt work with. [2016-11-27 20:35:16 CET] ddifferent regime [2016-11-27 20:35:33 CET] Came from a guy in Holland or Denmark. Think you got one too [2016-11-27 20:36:11 CET] And I have that board from Retroleum which can be used to load games from SD and also has a Joystick port [2016-11-27 20:36:26 CET] i have a diagnostic board with an 28c256 [2016-11-27 20:36:58 CET] I think mine are the same, but the Speccy program wouldnt recognise the chip or write to it [2016-11-27 20:37:45 CET] no, the speccy can not discriminate. [2016-11-27 20:38:28 CET] But the people said it would work. I think Balford on WOS did a lot of work to get it working correctly [2016-11-27 20:38:55 CET] my eeroms are totally blank [2016-11-27 20:39:06 CET] yes, it doesnt matter what kind of roms do you use. [2016-11-27 20:39:34 CET] ??? [2016-11-27 20:40:05 CET] I had eeproms for the diagnostic board because it was supposed to be possible to write to it using the Speccy. Never worked [2016-11-27 20:40:40 CET] ( dark remember. [2016-11-27 20:40:42 CET] It wasnt getting the correct "version" back when it tried - even though what I bought were correct [2016-11-27 20:41:18 CET] did you ask balford? [2016-11-27 20:41:52 CET] Yes, but I got disallusioned with WOS around that time and stopped visiting. Im sure he has it fixed now. [2016-11-27 20:41:56 CET] did you read the documentation? [2016-11-27 20:42:50 CET] Yes, thats why I know that it was the eeprom info that was causing the problem. The program expected one thing but got something else back [2016-11-27 20:42:52 CET] please, explain it in more details: [2016-11-27 20:43:25 CET] It was a long time ago, but when I tried to write the data to the eeprom it failed [2016-11-27 20:44:00 CET] you want to plug on the diiag board with a blank eeprom, and the datas to be burned are somewhere in the speccy ram? [2016-11-27 20:44:06 CET] Where I got to was the speccy program did a check to ensure that the eeprom was correct, but the value returnede wasnt what it expected so no write [2016-11-27 20:44:18 CET] Yes [2016-11-27 20:44:49 CET] ( will ask ingo,#he knows the board quite good. [2016-11-27 20:45:15 CET] OK, Im trying to find the program, but it may be on a USB drive [2016-11-27 20:45:19 CET] do you have some of the 28c256? [2016-11-27 20:45:39 CET] Yes, I got 2. One for each board I built [2016-11-27 20:45:50 CET] dave, lets finish for todayy [2016-11-27 20:46:02 CET] I remember talking to you and writing a prog to light the LEds [2016-11-27 20:46:16 CET] OK, talk next week. thanks for the help [2016-11-27 20:46:23 CET] bye [2016-11-27 20:46:27 CET] bye [2016-11-27 20:46:32 CET] * heinz quit (EOT) [2016-11-27 20:46:35 CET] * rune quit (Leaving)