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[2016-11-06 20:02:28 CET] <rune> hollo Heinz
[2016-11-06 20:06:17 CET] <heinz> hello dave
[2016-11-06 20:06:27 CET] <heinz> sorry for delay
[2016-11-06 20:06:35 CET] <rune> Hi, how are you
[2016-11-06 20:06:56 CET] <heinz> fine,#and you?
[2016-11-06 20:07:19 CET] <rune> Good, got all the "big" jobs done so can relax for a few weeks now
[2016-11-06 20:07:32 CET] <heinz> holiday?
[2016-11-06 20:07:44 CET] <heinz> until xmas?
[2016-11-06 20:07:59 CET] <rune> No, just no more lying under cards and bashing my hands
[2016-11-06 20:08:19 CET] <rune> It got very cold last night, we have the fire on
[2016-11-06 20:08:34 CET] <heinz> yes, we too. 
[2016-11-06 20:08:47 CET] <heinz> about 6 degree celssius.
[2016-11-06 20:09:07 CET] <rune> Hope its not going to be a bad winter
[2016-11-06 20:09:16 CET] <heinz> roko (roelof) wrote me some news.l
[2016-11-06 20:09:39 CET] <heinz> do you remember him?
[2016-11-06 20:09:48 CET] <rune> Yes from holland
[2016-11-06 20:10:10 CET] <heinz> ^e is writing aa program in basic
[2016-11-06 20:10:29 CET] <heinz> that will emulate the  enigma.
[2016-11-06 20:10:43 CET] <rune> The german code machine?
[2016-11-06 20:10:47 CET] <heinz> a lot of people did this, 
[2016-11-06 20:11:02 CET] <heinz> but not for speccy.
[2016-11-06 20:11:20 CET] <heinz> yes, the german coding machine.
[2016-11-06 20:11:39 CET] <heinz> ^e have sent  me the program,
[2016-11-06 20:11:52 CET] <heinz> still not working.
[2016-11-06 20:11:55 CET] <rune> I wonder if its possible to get original messages to decipher.
[2016-11-06 20:12:08 CET] <rune> That is the sort of project I like
[2016-11-06 20:12:35 CET] <heinz> yes, you can find i good documentation on wikipedia.
[2016-11-06 20:12:51 CET] <heinz> with all secret tables.
[2016-11-06 20:13:23 CET] <rune> Hope he releases it, I would liketo see it when its finished
[2016-11-06 20:13:39 CET] <heinz> ( could sent you his pgm, it is commented in englissh.
[2016-11-06 20:14:04 CET] <rune> Yes please, if its OK with ROKO
[2016-11-06 20:14:39 CET] <heinz> i xpect it will be ready  inn some days.
[2016-11-06 20:14:49 CET] <rune> Good
[2016-11-06 20:15:01 CET] <heinz> then we could communicatee by code..
[2016-11-06 20:15:20 CET] <heinz> there are some news in uk?
[2016-11-06 20:15:41 CET] <rune> News? About enigma
[2016-11-06 20:16:00 CET] <heinz> no, about speccy or other things
[2016-11-06 20:16:22 CET] <rune> Only the Vega + is ready for release
[2016-11-06 20:16:30 CET] <rune> I havent heard anything else
[2016-11-06 20:16:48 CET] <heinz> do you work with forrth on a pc or  on a speccy?
[2016-11-06 20:16:52 CET] <rune> I did find some new Forth words I dont know.
[2016-11-06 20:17:06 CET] <rune> I use the Fofrth 83 that you sent.
[2016-11-06 20:17:11 CET] <rune> Forth
[2016-11-06 20:17:16 CET] <heinz> do you  use bendsop forth?
[2016-11-06 20:17:25 CET] <heinz> ok 
[2016-11-06 20:17:30 CET] <rune> Yes thats Forth 83 
[2016-11-06 20:17:41 CET] <heinz> using an emulator
[2016-11-06 20:17:45 CET] <heinz> ?
[2016-11-06 20:18:21 CET] <rune> Yes, at the moment my toy is a SONY PS2 with 500 Gb hard drive
[2016-11-06 20:18:30 CET] <rune> But that will be put away soon
[2016-11-06 20:18:45 CET] <rune> I need to look at the Speccy and IF1Bis
[2016-11-06 20:18:54 CET] <heinz> repplaced byy a new oone?
[2016-11-06 20:19:04 CET] <rune> The Harlequin wont work with the new version
[2016-11-06 20:19:24 CET] <heinz> yes, if1bis  was good for forthh.
[2016-11-06 20:19:52 CET] <rune> Some keys repeat continually, sometimes it crashes, or wont initialise
[2016-11-06 20:20:02 CET] <heinz> conflict between harleq and if1bis?
[2016-11-06 20:20:26 CET] <rune> I think so, but it was OK with the earlier version of IF1Bis
[2016-11-06 20:20:51 CET] <heinz> i think i still have the old firmware.
[2016-11-06 20:21:03 CET] <heinz> i neveer had updated.
[2016-11-06 20:21:07 CET] <rune> So I will use my old IF1Bis with the harlequin and try the new IF1 on a real spectrum 48
[2016-11-06 20:21:48 CET] <rune> I bought a second one because the pound to SA Rand was very good rate and it cost 30.00 delivered
[2016-11-06 20:22:08 CET] <heinz> good  price.
[2016-11-06 20:22:08 CET] <rune> back in a second, dog wants out
[2016-11-06 20:22:23 CET] <rune> Yes, it wont cost that now
[2016-11-06 20:22:53 CET] <heinz> how do you mannage printings?
[2016-11-06 20:22:56 CET] <rune> Liz is letting dog out, and left the door open. 
[2016-11-06 20:23:16 CET] <rune> I dont really. I havent got a printer set up
[2016-11-06 20:23:52 CET] <rune> I do have ZX Printer, inkjet and colour laser but nowhere to put them in the house
[2016-11-06 20:24:25 CET] <heinz> the problem is the connection to the speccy.
[2016-11-06 20:24:49 CET] <rune> Thats why I was interested in your mod to the MrX sound card.
[2016-11-06 20:25:20 CET] <heinz> the pbl  with mrx is the following:
[2016-11-06 20:25:45 CET] <rune> Although I could use IF1Bis to put program to PC and the one of the tools to get text
[2016-11-06 20:25:47 CET] <heinz> the bus is for the zeddy,
[2016-11-06 20:26:21 CET] <heinz> and you cant extend  o if1bis.
[2016-11-06 20:26:48 CET] <rune> do you mean physically extend
[2016-11-06 20:26:54 CET] <heinz> but  yes,#i remember,#there was a possibility  to send  prinntings to the pc.
[2016-11-06 20:27:24 CET] <heinz> yes, physically
[2016-11-06 20:28:06 CET] <heinz> do you have seen my mod?
[2016-11-06 20:28:42 CET] <rune> Yes, I cant understand it. You said 2 restors and the usb board was all that was needed
[2016-11-06 20:28:55 CET] <rune> But I see daughterboards full of componnents
[2016-11-06 20:29:09 CET] <rune> Google translate didnt help this time
[2016-11-06 20:29:30 CET] <heinz> ok, the daughterbooard  is designeed for the speech chip.
[2016-11-06 20:30:05 CET] <heinz> the usb  cp2102 is  on the left border.
[2016-11-06 20:30:49 CET] <rune> Got it, bottom left
[2016-11-06 20:31:16 CET] <rune> two wires? Green and yellow
[2016-11-06 20:31:28 CET] <heinz> it is wired with the  connector k3 by two resitors +  ground.
[2016-11-06 20:32:04 CET] <heinz> yes, yellow, ggreen and  ground(blue)
[2016-11-06 20:32:15 CET] <heinz> no +5/
[2016-11-06 20:32:22 CET] <heinz> +5v
[2016-11-06 20:32:42 CET] <heinz> it gots the power via usb-line  from pc.
[2016-11-06 20:32:58 CET] <rune> one of the wires goes to the IC or a connection below it?
[2016-11-06 20:33:31 CET] <heinz> the yellow ne?
[2016-11-06 20:33:36 CET] <heinz> one?
[2016-11-06 20:34:06 CET] <rune> No, green
[2016-11-06 20:34:42 CET] <heinz> the green is rts (=busy, ready to send)
[2016-11-06 20:34:56 CET] <heinz> the yelloow is rxd.
[2016-11-06 20:36:00 CET] <rune> I see lots on ebay, I will order one and talk to you again about it
[2016-11-06 20:36:08 CET] <heinz> all you  need  is a 2;10 connector to  connect with mrxx and  the cp21102.
[2016-11-06 20:36:15 CET] <heinz> 2x10
[2016-11-06 20:36:36 CET] <rune> So I have to build the full board?
[2016-11-06 20:36:45 CET] <heinz> the drriver  pgm iis  100  bytes long.
[2016-11-06 20:36:59 CET] <heinz> no full board.
[2016-11-06 20:37:22 CET] <rune> so why 2x10 connectors?
[2016-11-06 20:37:26 CET] <heinz> only the black connector bottom and the cp2102.
[2016-11-06 20:38:00 CET] <heinz> 2x10 to have a better mechaniical stability
[2016-11-06 20:38:19 CET] <heinz> practically three pins are enough.
[2016-11-06 20:38:40 CET] <rune> I need to look at my Mr X board again
[2016-11-06 20:39:25 CET] <heinz> do you have it present?
[2016-11-06 20:39:38 CET] <rune> No, its put away just now.
[2016-11-06 20:40:09 CET] <rune> Do you remember the board in the photo above the prototype one? What is the left component
[2016-11-06 20:40:11 CET] <heinz> on mrx  you will fiind  ttwo lines of pinns ,  called k3
[2016-11-06 20:40:53 CET] <heinz> on page 1?
[2016-11-06 20:41:17 CET] <heinz> yes,
[2016-11-06 20:41:36 CET] <heinz> mrx doesnt have an amp  onboard.
[2016-11-06 20:42:06 CET] <rune> What is the circular componnent?
[2016-11-06 20:42:33 CET] <heinz> the smaall left component is an amp (lm386)) and a tine speakker.
[2016-11-06 20:42:59 CET] <heinz> circula{ on which picture?
[2016-11-06 20:43:08 CET] <heinz> circular?
[2016-11-06 20:43:37 CET] <heinz> circular on the right?
[2016-11-06 20:43:37 CET] <rune> Thats a speaker? WoW! I thought it was a fan
[2016-11-06 20:44:10 CET] <heinz> yes, i have speakers on mrx  and on  mrz.
[2016-11-06 20:44:16 CET] <rune> Circular on the left. Speech chip is on the rightm but maybe upside down
[2016-11-06 20:44:17 CET] <heinz> overkill.
[2016-11-06 20:44:40 CET] <rune> Do they work well even if they are small
[2016-11-06 20:45:22 CET] <heinz> green board: circcular speaker.  membran looks llike a faan.
[2016-11-06 20:45:44 CET] <rune> Yep, I wondered what needed cooled
[2016-11-06 20:45:50 CET] <heinz> these speakers  came from photo cameras.
[2016-11-06 20:46:03 CET] <heinz> not as  loud,
[2016-11-06 20:46:14 CET] <heinz> but enough.
[2016-11-06 20:47:22 CET] <rune> My speaker has some BUZZ. I moved it away from the PSU and its better but not perfect. Amp is still picking up interference
[2016-11-06 20:48:51 CET] <heinz> did you try mrx on  speccy or harleq?
[2016-11-06 20:48:52 CET] <rune> Is the Green board based on the prototype board below it or the other way?
[2016-11-06 20:49:31 CET] <heinz> the yellow board was designed and executed by me
[2016-11-06 20:49:33 CET] <rune> Not yet. Its build into my dkTroniks case and has no pass through
[2016-11-06 20:50:09 CET] <rune> Wher eis the yellow board? 
[2016-11-06 20:50:19 CET] <heinz> meanwhile joachim  has develloped a   prinnted board,  the green one.
[2016-11-06 20:50:42 CET] <heinz> yellow or  white.
[2016-11-06 20:51:13 CET] <rune> I see now, its a bit pale on my screen. Im impressed.
[2016-11-06 20:51:16 CET] <heinz> my contribution dated  by oct-288
[2016-11-06 20:52:02 CET] <heinz> both boards are more  or  less identically from the electric point of view.
[2016-11-06 20:52:19 CET] <heinz> same  adresses,  same  ports.
[2016-11-06 20:52:21 CET] <rune> So you have USB, Speach chip, amp speaker and line out + reset switch
[2016-11-06 20:52:31 CET] <heinz> for  user  no  differencee.
[2016-11-06 20:53:01 CET] <heinz> reset sswwitch  is no important.
[2016-11-06 20:53:29 CET] <rune> What will you build next
[2016-11-06 20:53:41 CET] <heinz> also the led iss not  necesssarily
[2016-11-06 20:54:03 CET] <heinz> dont know.
[2016-11-06 20:54:05 CET] <rune> Missed the LED 
[2016-11-06 20:54:27 CET] <heinz> led is above.
[2016-11-06 20:54:42 CET] <rune> Make a "No attribute clash board" with 512x400 resolution
[2016-11-06 20:55:50 CET] <heinz> what does this mean
[2016-11-06 20:55:53 CET] <heinz> ?
[2016-11-06 20:56:49 CET] <heinz> i will send you  pictures  with higher resolution.
[2016-11-06 20:56:57 CET] <rune> It stops the Spectrum colours causing attribute problem. basically removes the 2 colours only per 8x8 character cell
[2016-11-06 20:57:12 CET] <rune> Someone tried it on WOS with limited success
[2016-11-06 20:57:47 CET] <rune> Both sides of the board please
[2016-11-06 20:57:59 CET] <heinz> i will  do.
[2016-11-06 20:58:13 CET] <heinz> llet us finish for  today.
[2016-11-06 20:58:20 CET] <heinz> next sunday?
[2016-11-06 20:58:41 CET] <rune> OK, I'll talk next week. Now I need to make tomorrows lunch
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[2016-11-06 20:58:50 CET] <rune> Bye for now
[2016-11-06 20:58:55 CET] <heinz> bye
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