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[2016-07-31 17:17:33 CEST] * heinz joined [2016-07-31 17:23:53 CEST] * heinz quit (EOT) [2016-07-31 19:58:39 CEST] * rune joined [2016-07-31 20:09:21 CEST] * rune quit (Leaving) [2016-07-31 20:13:18 CEST] * heinz joined [2016-07-31 20:13:37 CEST] hello fuzb [2016-07-31 20:23:11 CEST] * rune joined [2016-07-31 20:23:19 CEST] hello Heinz [2016-07-31 20:23:23 CEST] hello dave [2016-07-31 20:23:43 CEST] i need 1 min break [2016-07-31 20:23:45 CEST] Thanks for the forth stuff/info. [2016-07-31 20:23:50 CEST] OK [2016-07-31 20:25:30 CEST] ok. [2016-07-31 20:25:35 CEST] i am back [2016-07-31 20:26:51 CEST] I was looking at your manual. Looks good but didnt get beyong 1st chapter [2016-07-31 20:27:29 CEST] do you mean my short manual? [2016-07-31 20:27:38 CEST] Yes, looks good [2016-07-31 20:27:56 CEST] just 2 pages. [2016-07-31 20:28:28 CEST] Not got past 1st yet. My book is getting onto editor and saving/loading programs [2016-07-31 20:28:40 CEST] i explain how to use the drives of if1bis. [2016-07-31 20:29:06 CEST] it is not a textbook for forth. [2016-07-31 20:29:19 CEST] I cant understand yet if dictionary is saved when you save pages [2016-07-31 20:29:36 CEST] I have one of the best from 1980s [2016-07-31 20:30:26 CEST] there is a textbook for forth on bbc-computer attached. [2016-07-31 20:30:37 CEST] quite good one. [2016-07-31 20:30:42 CEST] Let me see... [2016-07-31 20:30:58 CEST] 13m* [2016-07-31 20:31:08 CEST] 13mB [2016-07-31 20:31:19 CEST] Yes, see that [2016-07-31 20:31:40 CEST] what compiler do you want to use? [2016-07-31 20:31:47 CEST] Twice the size of my forth 79 book. [2016-07-31 20:32:11 CEST] I think the Forth 83 is good. But I havent worked out how to print a string yet. [2016-07-31 20:32:25 CEST] Normal way is ." Some text " [2016-07-31 20:32:38 CEST] but Forth 83 doesnt recognise the word [2016-07-31 20:33:05 CEST] yes, remember, there have been some problems. [2016-07-31 20:33:25 CEST] with printing. [2016-07-31 20:33:36 CEST] How so? [2016-07-31 20:33:52 CEST] I see that you have the vlist too. Very handy [2016-07-31 20:33:55 CEST] dont remember. [2016-07-31 20:34:43 CEST] Printing text is essential, surely they wont have left it out [2016-07-31 20:35:12 CEST] i found an example just now. [2016-07-31 20:35:49 CEST] printing: ." text " . cr [2016-07-31 20:36:26 CEST] Ah says not compiling for ." [2016-07-31 20:37:09 CEST] but .( Test ) works [2016-07-31 20:38:13 CEST] do you use forth83 on emulator or on real hardware? [2016-07-31 20:38:39 CEST] At the moment on the emulator. I have a Spectrum set up to use on real hardware [2016-07-31 20:39:19 CEST] together with the if1bis you can save on sd cards. [2016-07-31 20:39:27 CEST] Im using 128K with +2e roms (= dual SD cards) [2016-07-31 20:39:41 CEST] yep [2016-07-31 20:39:47 CEST] If that doesnt work I will bring in IF1bis on 48k [2016-07-31 20:40:08 CEST] easier to use emulators. [2016-07-31 20:40:23 CEST] But I needed to resolder cables to front SD reader first [2016-07-31 20:40:51 CEST] Yes, easier on emulators but not the same "feel" as a freal spectrum [2016-07-31 20:41:10 CEST] i am more interested in the speech chip right now. [2016-07-31 20:41:23 CEST] Have you used Forth as a hobby or for real world problems [2016-07-31 20:41:33 CEST] Yes, did you get a reply? [2016-07-31 20:41:43 CEST] on ebay i have seen a currah microspeech for 12gbp. [2016-07-31 20:42:11 CEST] If you want me to get it for you I will help [2016-07-31 20:42:33 CEST] no reply from sceinceshop till now. [2016-07-31 20:43:15 CEST] I see it too. 11.99 with free postage. [2016-07-31 20:43:22 CEST] thank you foor the offer, but i have ordered one today from schombi for 20eur. [2016-07-31 20:43:43 CEST] postage to germany is 15eur. [2016-07-31 20:43:49 CEST] OK, no problem. One uSpeech or chip? [2016-07-31 20:44:10 CEST] if it is free in gb, it could be interesting for you? [2016-07-31 20:44:30 CEST] complete uspeeech. [2016-07-31 20:45:15 CEST] Yes, Im thinking about it. Got a lot of expense this month though. Dog operation, car insurance and new clothes dryer [2016-07-31 20:45:17 CEST] my idea: desolder the chip, add a sockket, then i can uses on several boards. [2016-07-31 20:45:38 CEST] Yes, especially if you can use a ZIF socket [2016-07-31 20:45:44 CEST] your dog is well? [2016-07-31 20:47:04 CEST] hello? [2016-07-31 20:47:16 CEST] Boxers are prone to tumpours. He has one on the end of his ear. Vet says need to take off 2 inch of the ear. Im going to ask they remove a skin tag between his toes as well. [2016-07-31 20:47:36 CEST] Yes he is good, doesnt like hot weather but seems fit enough [2016-07-31 20:47:51 CEST] tumours * [2016-07-31 20:48:42 CEST] The Vets are very very expensive. They want 500 UKP for the op [2016-07-31 20:49:11 CEST] this is really a lot. [2016-07-31 20:49:41 CEST] very, very much [2016-07-31 20:49:54 CEST] Yes, thewy say they will do a biopsy too. But last op they said it was all inclusive and then charged me to take stitches out. They are really greedy [2016-07-31 20:50:42 CEST] how old is the dog? [2016-07-31 20:51:06 CEST] just turned 6 years. Boxers dont live as long as other dogs. Maybe 8 or 9 [2016-07-31 20:51:59 CEST] that i didnt know. our dog lived 13 years. [2016-07-31 20:52:33 CEST] dachshund. [2016-07-31 20:53:01 CEST] Yes, other dogs seem to live long/normal lives. [2016-07-31 20:53:13 CEST] I wont get another dog ever again because of Vets [2016-07-31 20:53:34 CEST] why boxers are so sensitive? [2016-07-31 20:54:13 CEST] I dont know. I knew they were prone to tumours, but thought that things would improve since my last one 20 years ago [2016-07-31 20:54:38 CEST] Insurance is crazy too, 1000 UKP per year [2016-07-31 20:54:57 CEST] health insurance for dogs? [2016-07-31 20:55:39 CEST] Yes for pets. Vets assume everyone has insurance so put the prices up. One sold me ear drops and charges 55.00 On amazon the same thing was 3.50 [2016-07-31 20:56:36 CEST] do you have liability ensurance too? [2016-07-31 20:57:35 CEST] No, I couldnt get insurance as he was a rescue dog. Silly mistake on my part but he is a very good dog. [2016-07-31 20:58:16 CEST] People can sue me, but I dont have a lot to pay them [2016-07-31 20:58:19 CEST] i wish him a long life. [2016-07-31 20:58:45 CEST] Hopefully, and especially healthy. Or I will be a pauper. [2016-07-31 20:59:07 CEST] ok dave. [2016-07-31 20:59:20 CEST] lets finish for today. [2016-07-31 20:59:22 CEST] Oh, time has moved on [2016-07-31 20:59:34 CEST] next sunday again? [2016-07-31 20:59:37 CEST] Yes, maybe next week I will have a forth prog ready [2016-07-31 20:59:41 CEST] Yes, [2016-07-31 21:00:00 CEST] I will be here [2016-07-31 21:00:05 CEST] bye [2016-07-31 21:00:12 CEST] bye [2016-07-31 21:00:19 CEST] * rune quit (Leaving) [2016-07-31 21:01:17 CEST] hello, heinz [2016-07-31 21:03:21 CEST] * heinz quit (ping timeout)