[2016-07-04 18:58:19 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-04 22:44:06 CEST] * Outsoft quit (EOT) [2016-07-04 23:09:09 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-04 23:32:01 CEST] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-07-05 04:57:51 CEST] * Guest410 joined [2016-07-05 04:57:57 CEST] * Guest410 quit (CGI:IRC) [2016-07-05 23:19:52 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-05 23:36:12 CEST] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-07-06 18:58:22 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-06 20:28:16 CEST] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-07-08 19:25:10 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-08 21:39:27 CEST] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-07-10 15:30:42 CEST] * Outsoft joined [2016-07-10 17:28:36 CEST] * Outsoft quit (Leaving...) [2016-07-10 19:58:20 CEST] * heinz joined [2016-07-10 20:01:38 CEST] * rune joined [2016-07-10 20:01:46 CEST] hello heinz [2016-07-10 20:02:00 CEST] hello dave [2016-07-10 20:02:23 CEST] how are things in Potsdam? [2016-07-10 20:02:35 CEST] i have to switch off my solder iron. [2016-07-10 20:03:00 CEST] ok, dont touch the tip. Its hot from what i remember [2016-07-10 20:03:08 CEST] we have very nice wheather in potsdam. [2016-07-10 20:03:27 CEST] We have dry but threatening to rain all the time [2016-07-10 20:03:29 CEST] my wife is still in the garden. [2016-07-10 20:03:48 CEST] I cleared out half my shed today. Just finished. I started at 10:00 [2016-07-10 20:03:57 CEST] no, sunny days. about 26 degr celsius. [2016-07-10 20:04:27 CEST] Lucky, the weather here is poor. Only sunny when Im at work [2016-07-10 20:04:36 CEST] maybe 19 degrees [2016-07-10 20:04:54 CEST] what about football? [2016-07-10 20:05:07 CEST] Yes, I was hoping wales would do well. [2016-07-10 20:05:11 CEST] sorry for england. [2016-07-10 20:05:26 CEST] sorry for wales too. [2016-07-10 20:05:28 CEST] I need to support portugal tonight. Im not happy with the french just now [2016-07-10 20:05:50 CEST] but fiedland is good . [2016-07-10 20:06:01 CEST] fiedland? [2016-07-10 20:06:08 CEST] friedl... [2016-07-10 20:06:35 CEST] french rusher [2016-07-10 20:06:57 CEST] Ah, I dont follow football that much. [2016-07-10 20:07:31 CEST] i have i new project: speech chip sp0256 [2016-07-10 20:07:50 CEST] Is it a kit, or built from scratch? [2016-07-10 20:08:05 CEST] as pillion on the mrx board. [2016-07-10 20:08:19 CEST] Ah, tell me more [2016-07-10 20:08:45 CEST] i have ordered 2 chips from china for about 4 eur each. [2016-07-10 20:09:00 CEST] hope get them in august. [2016-07-10 20:09:18 CEST] will they use modern speech or sound like a 70s robot? [2016-07-10 20:09:42 CEST] there is a connector on mrx called k3. [2016-07-10 20:10:13 CEST] more as in the 70s [2016-07-10 20:10:40 CEST] what vis K3? I need to find a pic of the board [2016-07-10 20:10:57 CEST] the chip was develloped in the beginning of the 80s [2016-07-10 20:11:21 CEST] k3: just two lines of holes. [2016-07-10 20:11:32 CEST] 2x15 [2016-07-10 20:12:17 CEST] locted in the very centre. [2016-07-10 20:12:19 CEST] I see them, below the AY chip [2016-07-10 20:12:26 CEST] yes. [2016-07-10 20:12:32 CEST] I thought those were VIAs [2016-07-10 20:12:45 CEST] the ay has two io-ports. [2016-07-10 20:12:55 CEST] called a and b. [2016-07-10 20:13:16 CEST] the holes are joined with this ports. [2016-07-10 20:13:39 CEST] So is it as easy as adding a socket + speech chip? [2016-07-10 20:13:40 CEST] the work like a pio. [2016-07-10 20:13:55 CEST] i hope so. [2016-07-10 20:14:23 CEST] Im going to look for the chip on ebay [2016-07-10 20:14:28 CEST] there were some sucessful projects in 1991 for zx81. [2016-07-10 20:15:13 CEST] last year joachim and stephan from the team had started again. [2016-07-10 20:15:31 CEST] Is this it? The SP0256-AL2 produces all 59 phonemes of the English language plus 5 pauses of different lengths. [2016-07-10 20:15:36 CEST] but none of them had success. [2016-07-10 20:16:06 CEST] yes, exact. [2016-07-10 20:16:31 CEST] Hope you dont mind if I copy this? [2016-07-10 20:16:58 CEST] no. [2016-07-10 20:17:25 CEST] i am interested in german language ;-) [2016-07-10 20:17:45 CEST] OK, I'll try it too then. [2016-07-10 20:18:01 CEST] You will need 590 phonemes for that [2016-07-10 20:18:27 CEST] i have two long list with german words defragmented into phonems. [2016-07-10 20:18:49 CEST] 59, not 590. [2016-07-10 20:19:17 CEST] I was kidding, german sounds like there is more [2016-07-10 20:19:51 CEST] How many letters in german alphabet? [2016-07-10 20:19:52 CEST] ha,ha.very funny. [2016-07-10 20:20:34 CEST] 26 letters and three mutated vowells. [2016-07-10 20:21:05 CEST] Same as english then. Ithought there was 1 or 2 different [2016-07-10 20:22:12 CEST] i am sure you could find some old project with sp0256 in the zeddy forums. [2016-07-10 20:23:13 CEST] I have PDFs of all the old ZX magazines. Does the chip replicate the functions of the old speech units Like MrX does the ZonX81 [2016-07-10 20:23:22 CEST] do you know how to program the ay? [2016-07-10 20:23:45 CEST] Yes, I have a M/C program. In that PDF I sent [2016-07-10 20:23:57 CEST] I need to work out the values though [2016-07-10 20:24:25 CEST] then you know how to use channels a/b. [2016-07-10 20:25:00 CEST] I think so, but I dont fully understand what all the values are [2016-07-10 20:25:48 CEST] the codes of the phonems will be sended to the sp0256 via port b. [2016-07-10 20:26:43 CEST] So 59 + 5 = 64, the first 7 bits of the byte [2016-07-10 20:26:44 CEST] by the way, the sp does not replicate the old chips, it is identically with them. [2016-07-10 20:27:42 CEST] I guess if it uses phonemes, it wont use any memory to play the speech. Other than the codes [2016-07-10 20:27:50 CEST] no, just 6 bits upto 63. bit6=strobe, bit7=busy. [2016-07-10 20:28:20 CEST] Yes, Im not thinking [2016-07-10 20:28:29 CEST] what is the strobe [2016-07-10 20:29:18 CEST] some signal, strobe is the name used for centronics if. [2016-07-10 20:30:24 CEST] Are you on the ZX81 tonight [2016-07-10 20:30:39 CEST] for sp it is caleed ald=address load instead of sstrobe. [2016-07-10 20:31:26 CEST] yes, i am using the zx81nu, as always. [2016-07-10 20:31:32 CEST] So it loads the data when set? Maybe to give "pace" to speech [2016-07-10 20:32:23 CEST] I found a ZX printer today. It works too. Found it difficult to type on standard keyboard [2016-07-10 20:32:41 CEST] no, if ald goes high, the data will be loaded. [2016-07-10 20:33:16 CEST] problemm with zx printers is the belt. [2016-07-10 20:33:56 CEST] it gets brittle. [2016-07-10 20:34:30 CEST] hope, your printer will have a long life. [2016-07-10 20:34:40 CEST] I heard that. I printed a a dozen or so lines. Print got faint, but I think the paper was exposed at that bit. [2016-07-10 20:35:03 CEST] I never use it. I also found a colour laser and an inkjet too. [2016-07-10 20:35:33 CEST] Lots of treasure in my shed [2016-07-10 20:35:48 CEST] back to speech: each word has to be decomposed into a sequence of phonems. [2016-07-10 20:36:27 CEST] the sequence of the associated codes is sentt to the sp0256 [2016-07-10 20:36:35 CEST] does the ald being set high at different times make it sound less robotic [2016-07-10 20:36:58 CEST] ald? [2016-07-10 20:37:26 CEST] sorry. [2016-07-10 20:37:35 CEST] misunderstanding. [2016-07-10 20:37:38 CEST] address load bit [2016-07-10 20:37:55 CEST] ald is a kind of start clock. [2016-07-10 20:38:16 CEST] for the phoneme [2016-07-10 20:38:36 CEST] i you want i will send you my scheme. [2016-07-10 20:38:58 CEST] but the booard is not yet ready. [2016-07-10 20:39:12 CEST] please, I am interested. The ZX81 is already way beyond what I thought it could do. Now it goes further [2016-07-10 20:39:39 CEST] not bad for a 35 vyear old cheap computer. [2016-07-10 20:40:20 CEST] since mrx runs also on spectrum, the speech is also possible for speccy. [2016-07-10 20:40:51 CEST] Would it run on a +2/A/B? [2016-07-10 20:41:00 CEST] in 128K mode? [2016-07-10 20:41:55 CEST] i am not sure, wether the port addresses are free. [2016-07-10 20:42:21 CEST] I dont suppose it would burn anything out. Either it would work or not [2016-07-10 20:42:28 CEST] i never wrote mc pgms for 128k mode. [2016-07-10 20:43:09 CEST] I think its basically the same as 48K, there are additional variables but I think the printer buffer is used [2016-07-10 20:43:42 CEST] I have a 128K with 2 x SD cards that emulate the commands on the Floppy drive version [2016-07-10 20:44:34 CEST] usually i use some routines from the rom in my pgms. in 128k these routines are located on anothr place. [2016-07-10 20:44:59 CEST] my pgms are restricted to 48k. [2016-07-10 20:45:22 CEST] so dave, [2016-07-10 20:45:29 CEST] ROM is different in 128. there is a 48K rom but that doesnt have access to the SD cards [2016-07-10 20:45:51 CEST] Are you off? [2016-07-10 20:46:07 CEST] not yt. but soon. [2016-07-10 20:46:12 CEST] yet [2016-07-10 20:46:40 CEST] let us finish for today. [2016-07-10 20:47:07 CEST] OK, I need to go and shower. Its been a long day [2016-07-10 20:47:22 CEST] slep well [2016-07-10 20:47:26 CEST] sleep [2016-07-10 20:47:30 CEST] bye. [2016-07-10 20:47:35 CEST] I will, work tomorrow though :P [2016-07-10 20:47:37 CEST] bye [2016-07-10 20:47:47 CEST] * heinz quit (EOT) [2016-07-10 20:47:51 CEST] * rune quit (Leaving)